Agency Leadership Podcast

Agency Leadership Podcast

Chip Griffin and Gini Dietrich

Episodes 100
Avg. Duration 20m
Activity Highly Active
Apple Rating 4.8 (19)
Since Nov 2023
Latest Episode Jun 2026

Publishing Details

Schedule
Weekly
Format
Episodic
Consistency
68%
Hosting
sagaimpact.com

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About This Podcast

Chip Griffin and Gini Dietrich help PR and marketing agency owners make better decisions about the businesses they run. With 300+ episodes, the Agency Leadership Podcast covers the topics owners deal with every week: pricing, profitability, hiring, client management, positioning, and what it takes to build an agency worth owning. Chip is the founder of SAGA Agency Growth Advisors and creator of the Build to Own approach. Gini is the founder of Spin Sucks and creator of the PESO Model.

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Recent Episodes

Is your agency easy to work with?

Jun 11, 2026 18m

Most agency owners think their clients have it easy. But the gap between how you believe your agency operates and how clients and prospects actually experience it is often wider than you’d expect,…

Using AI to extend your agency’s PESO Model expertise

Jun 04, 2026 21m

Most owner-led agencies know they should be doing more than media relations. One barrier has always been capability: you can’t execute paid media if nobody on your team knows paid media. AI is…

What to do when a client “fires” your agency

May 28, 2026 24m

Losing a client is never fun, even when you saw the writing on the wall. The only question is how you choose to handle it. In this episode, Chip and Gini cover the practical and emotional side of…

What the Agency AI Survey results mean for PR and marketing firms

May 21, 2026 22m

The SAGA Agency AI Survey results are in, and small agency owners are feeling great about AI. Maybe too great. In this episode, Chip and Gini dig into the numbers and find the gap between how owners…

How agency owners can use AI as an always-on thought partner

May 14, 2026 16m

Most agency owners know AI can write a first draft or clean up copy. Far fewer have figured out how to use it as the strategic sounding board they’ve always needed. In this episode, Chip and Gini…

Stop making sacrifices your agency doesn’t need you to make

May 07, 2026 19m

Most agency owners think they’re doing their team a favor when they quietly absorb the painful, tedious, or time-consuming work. They’re likely not. In this episode, Chip Griffin and Gini Dietrich…

Preparing for your agency’s group presentations and pitches

Apr 30, 2026 23m

In this episode, Chip and Gini open with the analogy of Canadian doubles, the tennis format where two players face one. If your team outnumbers the prospect, you don’t project strength, you project…

Rethink entry-level hiring to succeed in the AI era

Apr 23, 2026 18m

The entry-level talent pipeline is being entirely restructured. If agency owners don’t figure out what role a young professional actually plays in an AI-assisted agency, they won’t just struggle to…

Five words every agency owner needs to understand

Apr 09, 2026 21m

Most agency owners spend a lot of time thinking about growth, clients, and revenue. Far fewer think carefully about the words that define how they actually operate their businesses. In this episode,…

300 episodes in: what’s changed, what hasn’t, and what we got wrong

Apr 02, 2026 24m

Eight years and 300 episodes later, Chip and Gini take stock of what the Agency Leadership Podcast has actually been about and where their thinking has shifted since they sat down for lunch outside…

Hire people who understand how to solve problems

Mar 26, 2026 20m

Most hiring processes obsess over the wrong things. Do they know our project management software? Are they proficient in this specific tool? Meanwhile, the one capability that actually determines…

Build the business you want to own, not the one you hope to sell

Mar 19, 2026 19m

Most agency owners have read Built to Sell. But many have internalized the wrong lesson from it—fixating on that final chapter where the protagonist drives off into the sunset with a pile of cash,…

Holding companies discover retainers, call them “subscriptions”

Mar 12, 2026 15m

S4 Capital has announced a revolutionary new pricing model that will transform how agencies charge for their services: instead of billable hours, they’re moving to… subscriptions. Fixed monthly fees.…

The PESO Model evolves for the AI era (and why your website isn’t dead)

Feb 19, 2026 22m

The PESO Model has been guiding smart communications strategies for over a decade, but the tactical landscape underneath it keeps shifting. In the latest evolution, Gini and her team have completely…

Building the ideal agency: wrestling with the tough decisions

Feb 12, 2026 25m

David C. Baker recently published a fascinating thought experiment about what he’d do if starting an agency from scratch today—and it’s packed with provocative ideas worth serious consideration. His…

Wake up or get left behind: AI is forcing your hand

Feb 05, 2026 23m

No more excuses. No more waiting to see how things play out. AI has moved past the experimental phase, and if you’re still treating it like a nice-to-have rather than a fundamental shift in how your…

Stop letting your website embarrass you

Jan 22, 2026 20m

You built an agency you’re proud of. So why does your website still feature that glowing tribute to someone you wouldn’t recommend today, or explain services you stopped offering three years…

Rediscovering your agency’s founding spark

Jan 15, 2026 20m

As agency owners settle into 2026, it’s easy to operate on autopilot—chasing the next tactic without reconnecting with what made the business work in the first place. In this episode, Chip and Gini…

Embracing innovation to survive and thrive in 2026

Dec 11, 2025 22m

In this episode, Chip and Gini discuss the importance of strategic planning for 2026. As they near the end of 2025, they emphasize the need for agencies to set themselves apart and adapt to the…

Balancing skills and personality when hiring a new team member

Dec 04, 2025 21m

In this episode, Chip and Gini discuss the complexities of hiring in growing agencies. They highlight the challenges of finding skilled, reliable employees who align with agency values. Sharing…

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