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James Grimmelmann explains how AI is changing copyright
I’m organizing a happy hour on June 23 for listeners of AI Summer and readers of my newsletter, Understanding AI. It’ll run from 5:30 to 8:00pm at The Crown & Crow in Washington DC. I will be…
Andy Masley on the data center backlash
Over seven years teaching high school physics, Andy Masley learned how to explain abstract quantities like watt-hours in an accessible way. That skill has made him one of the most effective critics…
Sophia Tung on the state of autonomous vehicles
I don’t know anyone who has ridden in more different kinds of robotaxis than Sophia Tung. A YouTuber and the author of the RideAI newsletter, she is one of the most knowledgeable experts on the…
Divyansh Kaushik on the robotics race between China and the US
I talk to Divyansh Kaushik, a Carnegie Mellon machine learning PhD turned national-security advisor at Beacon Global Strategies, about the robotics race between the US and China and why winning the…
Alex Imas explains why AI (probably) won't put everyone out of work
Alex Imas is an economist at the University of Chicago Booth School who argues that the most important thing about an AI-saturated economy won’t be what machines can produce—it’ll be what humans…
Sayash Kapoor on Claude Mythos as normal technology
Last week Anthropic stunned the AI world by announcing Claude Mythos Preview—and then refusing to release it. Princeton’s Sayash Kapoor, co-author of the newsletter AI as Normal Technology, joins Tim…
Nat Purser explains how progressives are thinking about AI
Tim talks to Nat Purser, a tech policy advocate at Public Knowledge and a veteran of Democratic campaigns, about how policymakers on the left side of the political spectrum view AI.Purser describes a…
Ryan Avent on self-driving cars and the future of the labor market
Author Ryan Avent joins Tim to revisit a bet they made 16 years ago—and to ask whether the lessons of self-driving cars apply to modern AI.Back in 2010, Avent wagered that his newborn daughter would…
Joel Becker on METR's famous time horizons chart
METR’s time horizons chart has become one of the most discussed metrics in AI. It estimates the difficulty of tasks — measured in human work hours — that a model can complete about 50% of the time.…
Pete Hegseth's war on Anthropic (with Alan Rozenshtein and Kevin Frazier)
Tim and Dean team up with Scaling Laws hosts Alan Rozenshtein and Kevin Frazier for a joint episode on the fight between Anthropic and the Department of Defense.In this episode, recorded on March 4,…
Dean on the AI Action Summit in India
Dean joins from London after attending the AI Impact Summit in India. Dean and Tim unpack the summit’s central tension: “middle power” nations like India, Indonesia, and Nigeria pushing a vision of…
Kai Williams on the many masks LLMs wear
With Dean away, Tim invites his Understanding AI colleague Kai to unpack the surprising ways chatbot personalities can go wrong, a topic Kai covered in a recent article.Every LLM starts as a base…
AI safety in India, AV operators in the Philippines
Dean recorded this episode as he was preparing to attend the India AI Impact Summit — the fourth iteration of an annual gathering that has transformed from an intimate AI Safety Summit with heads of…
Dean is back!
Dean Ball is back. In April 2025, Dean left the podcast to join the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, where he spent four months working on the Trump administration’s AI…
Dean Ball is leaving the podcast
This week Dean began a new job: senior policy advisor for AI in the Trump White House. I will miss having him as a co-host and wish him the best in his new role.In this episode, recorded last Friday,…
Charles Yang on AI and Science
This week, Dean and Tim talk to Charles Yang, a former staffer at the Department of Energy who now writes the Rough Drafts newsletter. Tim has written extensively about AI in science, concentrating…
James Grimmelmann on the copyright threat to AI companies
James Grimmelmann is a professor of law at Cornell University and a leading expert on copyright law. Grimmelmann walks through the complex process courts use to determine whether training AI models…
Andrew Lee on running an AI email startup
Andrew Lee is the co-founder of Shortwave, an AI-powered email app. He’s also Tim’s brother.Andrew shares how Shortwave evolved from a conventional email app into a multi-LLM system that automates…
Dean and Tim on Deep Research and the Paris Summit
In this episode, Dean and Tim discuss Dean’s trip to Paris for the AI Action Summit, including Vice President Vance’s speech on AI. They talk through the European outlook on AI regulation, European…
Kashmir Hill on falling in love with ChatGPT
Kashmir Hill is a reporter at the New York Times who focuses on the social impacts of new technology. In this episode, she describes how users are customizing chatbots like ChatGPT to fulfill…
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