And We Feel Fine with Beth Rudden and Katie Smith
Katie Smith & Beth Rudden
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Episode 16 | The Death of the 10x Coder: Empathy, Inclusion, and Tech Leadership with Autumn Patterson
What happens when we stop chasing the myth of the lone “10x coder” and start building engineering cultures rooted in empathy, predictability, and inclusion?In this candid conversation, we go deep…
Episode 15 | Decentralizing the Future: Web3, Labor, and Life Beyond Extraction with Crystal Street
In this conversation, we go deep with Crystal Street — Naropa Institute graduate, journalist, photographer, and bridge-builder between the frontline of crypto and the ethics we desperately need in…
Episode 14 | The Revolution Will Be Rested: Why Burnout Isn’t a Badge of Honor
Welcome back to And We Feel Fine—the radically honest podcast about what’s ending, what’s beginning, and how we build systems of care, not conquest.In this episode, co-hosts Beth Rudden and Katie…
Episode 13 | Walking Out, Building Forward: Julia Pahina on Tech, Trust & Tending Systems
Welcome back to And We Feel Fine, where each week we ask what’s ending, what’s beginning—and what it means to build with care.In this episode, Katie Smith and Beth Rudden sit down with Pacific tech…
Episode 12 | The End of the “Big Man”: How Leadership - and Abundance - Are Being Rewritten
The era of the lone genius CEO is over. What’s rising now? Leadership that’s collaborative, culturally aware, and rooted in care.In this episode of And We Feel Fine, co-hosts Beth Rudden and Katie…
Episode 11 | Built to Heal: How AI, Community, and the Environment Could Save Us
In This EpisodeKatie and Beth explore how AI, genomics, and healthcare are colliding—and what it means for the future of prediction, ethics, and our most personal data. They also delve into personal…
Episode 10 | How We Use AI to Read, Write, and Stay Human
Katie and Beth on literacy, dyslexia, and the future of creativity in a tech-driven world.In this episode: Technology isn't just reshaping how we work—it's transforming how we read, write, and…
Episode 9 | Rethinking Universal Basic Income: Why AI Disruption Demands a New Social Contract
Hosted by Beth Rudden and Katie Smith, two builders of systems and challengers of the status quo. Beth is CEO of Bast.AI and a globally recognized expert in trustworthy AI, with decades of experience…
Episode 8 | Launch Recap - What’s Ended, What’s Beginning, and What’s Next
In this reflection episode, Beth and Katie look back on the first seven conversations—threads of grief, growth, tech, and care woven into something bigger. This is our origin story and a soft landing…
Episode 7 | Care, Not Cages: Migration, Community, and the Fight for Belonging
Resources to support people and families impacted by ICE raids. Recorded during a wave of ICE raids in Los Angeles, this urgent episode asks what it means to truly belong in a country built on…
Episode 6 | Joy Is a System: Grief, AI, and the Power of Context
In our first guest episode, Beth and Katie are joined by Dr. Desmond Patton—renowned social worker, AI ethics leader, and founder of SAFELab—for a soul-stirring conversation on what’s ending, what’s…
Episode 5 | The New Arms Race: Service, AI, and the Soul of Community
Recorded on Memorial Day, this deeply reflective episode honors the past and questions the future. Beth Rudden and Katie Smith explore what it means to serve, belong, and protect—whether on the…
Episode 4 | Burn the Math, Save the Girl: Why We Need a New Parable
In this probing and philosophical episode of And We Feel Fine, Beth Rudden and Katie Smith unravel the myth of effective altruism. Starting with the well-known "drowning girl" parable, they trace the…
Episode 3 | The Power of Belonging: AI, Caregiving, and the Future of Human Connection
In this heartfelt episode of And We Feel Fine, Beth Rudden and Katie Smith dive deep into what it means to belong, to care, and to be human in an age of artificial intelligence. From personal stories…
Episode 2 | Emotional Intelligence, Capitalism, and the Moral Imagination
In this episode of And We Feel Fine, Katie Smith and Beth Rudden navigate the deeply personal and radically political terrain of emotional intelligence, moral imagination, and the soul of our…
Episode 1 | Flipping the Script: AI, Data Privacy, and a New Digital Economy
In this premiere episode of And We Feel Fine, Beth Rudden and Katie Smith crack open the big questions: Who owns your data? What does ethical AI look like? And how do we reclaim digital spaces for…
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