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General Counsel and Chief Legal Officers hold some of the highest-ranking and most vital executive roles within any company or organization. These positions are both prestigious and deeply impactful, making them a pinnacle aspiration for many corporate lawyers. However, the journey to earning these titles is complex, demanding not only technical legal expertise but also exceptional leadership and strategic vision.
Welcome to Becoming the GC, hosted by Joseph Schohl, a growth-focused General Counsel dedicated to uncovering the diverse and inspiring paths taken by those who have reached these esteemed positions. Each episode provides practical advice, compelling real-life stories, and actionable roadmaps to guide aspiring GCs and CLOs in achieving their professional goals.
Hear from successful General Counsels and Chief Legal Officers as they recount their journeys to the top, sharing lessons learned, challenges overcome, and insights into how they mastered the blend of legal acumen and leadership skills required to excel in the role. Becoming the GC bridges the gap between technical expertise and the softer skills essential for success, offering listeners a unique perspective on what it takes to thrive in this coveted position.
Whether you’re already leading a legal department and wondering how to claim the GC title, or you’re frustrated by external hires bypassing your hard work, this podcast serves as your trusted guide. It demystifies the steps needed to distinguish yourself as a standout candidate and equips you with the tools to navigate the complexities of the corporate legal landscape.
Be inspired by the real-life experiences of General Counsels and lawyers who candidly share the pivotal moments, triumphs, and challenges of their careers. These stories reveal that success as a GC isn’t just about legal prowess—it’s also about perseverance, adaptability, and the willingness to embrace bigger goals and responsibilities.
Discover how to prepare yourself for the multifaceted role of a General Counsel. Learn to become a constant learner capable of adapting to new legal domains and solving complex challenges that span diverse areas of expertise. Through thought-provoking conversations, Becoming the GC helps you evolve into a lawyer who can handle anything with confidence and skill.
Alongside his exceptional roster of guests, Joseph Schohl shares his own journey to the General Counsel role, offering valuable insights from his experience working with Fortune 500 healthcare companies, private equity-backed organizations, top-tier law firms, and entrepreneurial ventures. As the founder and chairman of General Counsel West, Joseph provides world-class legal assistance to businesses transforming healthcare. Having become a GC of a Fortune 500 company at just 36 years old, Joseph brings a wealth of experience and actionable advice for those ready to take their careers to the next level.
The role of General Counsel is reserved for the best of the best—a true test of one’s skills, resilience, and vision. If you aspire to lead as a GC or CLO, Becoming the GC offers the guidance, motivation, and inspiration you need to make that dream a reality. With Joseph’s expertise and the wisdom of his accomplished guests, you’ll gain the tools to set yourself apart and excel in this transformative career path.
Ready to take the first step? Tune in to Becoming the GC at https://insidecounselacademy.com/podcast/ and start shaping yourself into the exceptional leader your organization needs.
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Recent Episodes
Networking As A Superpower: Building A Portfolio Career In Law With Lisa Harrington
Meet Lisa Harrington, the ultimate portfolio career architect in the legal world. From top litigator to multiple General Counsel (GC) roles, a public company board member, and now the CEO seat, Lisa…
The Evolution Of Corporate Law Practice And The Modern GC With Noah Popp
The role of the modern GC has evolved from being a technical gatekeeper to a strategic business partner who must balance the "speed of light" provided by technology with the "speed of right" required…
The Tech-Forward GC: How Ritesh Patel Turns Technology Into Strategic Advantage
Technology will only evolve as time passes by, and you cannot afford to be left behind. You have to grow alongside it and use it wisely to your career advantage. Joseph Schohl sits down with Ritesh…
Beyond Compliance: Jamie Anderson On Building Modern In House Teams In A Changing Healthcare World
Jamie Anderson, CLO of Virta Health, is not your typical General Counsel. She's a high-impact leader who has navigated a non-linear career path—from politics-obsessed DC student to Big Law at Aiken…
From Big Law To ‘Retirement’ And Beyond: Mike Sennett’s Second Act As General Counsel
What does a “retirement” career look like for a Big Law antitrust partner? In this exclusive interview, we speak with Mike Sennett—former antitrust partner at Jones Day—about his unconventional…
Hands-On Leadership: How Ben Huddleston Rolls Up His Sleeves For 28 Companies
Navigating a dynamic general counsel career demands an almost James Bond-like dedication, a hands-on leadership with the ability to embrace the unknown. Host Joe Schohl reconnects with seasoned GC…
From Litigator To Leader: David Shapiro On Seizing Opportunity And Building Teams
The path to becoming a top executive in in-house legal leadership is rarely conventional, but always a masterclass in career agility. David Shapiro, the General Counsel who shaped legal strategy and…
From IVF Law To Ultra-Distance Rides: Lessons In Leadership And Being Yourself From Margaret Howell
To excel in your professional spaces, you must not only learn how to do your work with persistence and determination. Being yourself at all times without trying hard is also key. Joseph Schohl sits…
Kansas City Here I Come: Mike Geroe’s Coast-To-Coast (And In Between) Legal Journey
Michael Geroe’s legal journey saw him work from the West Coast to the East Coast, as well as a good chunk in the middle of the country. This taught him a ton of powerful career lessons, which greatly…
The Evolving Lawyer: Sterling Miller On Lessons From The Game Of Life
Sterling Miller has spent decades turning real-world experience into wisdom that every lawyer can use. From his early lessons in Nebraska to leading major legal teams and mastering AI for lawyers,…
The Long-Term Impact Of Lifelong Learning With Carlos Lindo
When you land in the GC chair, you cannot sit back and relax. If you want to perform well in your role and inspire others to do the same, you must learn to embrace lifelong learning. Joseph Schohl…
Leading With Authenticity: C.E. Rhodes On Clarity, Service, And Solving Problems
Authentic leadership starts with knowing who you are and leading from that truth. C.E. Rhodes, General Counsel of Frost Bank, shares how purpose, empathy, and consistency have guided his journey from…
Beyond the Law: Chuck Kable on Bold Moves, Legal Innovation, and Leading with Heart
A general counsel’s work, even though not without its fair share of challenges, is truly a worthwhile one. Joseph Schohl is joined by Chuck Kable, Chief Legal Officer and Secretary at Innovative…
From the Ballpark to the Boardroom: Bart Peach on Leadership, Legal Mastery, and Thriving In-House
Working as a lawyer in an in-house context is not a topic you would encounter in law school. Bart Peach, General Counsel and Chief Compliance Officer at Unio Health Partners, joins Joseph Schohl to…
Navigating The GC Role: From Law Firm Partner To In-House Leader With David Katz
The GC role today demands more than legal expertise—it requires vision, adaptability, and business acumen. In this insightful discussion, David Katz, a seasoned legal professional, shares his…
Navigating The Complexities Of Healthcare Law & Leadership With Terri Cammarano
Blending legal expertise with strategic leadership is paramount in the complex realm of healthcare administration. In this episode, we're privileged to feature Terri Cammarano, Senior Vice President…
Biotech Leadership: How Jean Liu Mastered The Shift From GC To Board Roles
Biotech leadership requires a unique blend of scientific acumen, legal expertise, and business savvy, a combination that our guest Jean Liu embodies perfectly. In this episode, we dive deep with…
Expanding Globally: Hemang Shah Shares Expertise In Corporate Law And Cross-Border Transactions
Understanding the complexities of corporate law is crucial for businesses aiming for global expansion, and our guest, Hemang Shah, offers a unique perspective on both. In this episode, we dive deep…
Lessons In Leadership For In-House Counsel with Christy Crase
Christy Crase shares her remarkable journey to becoming in-house counsel, transitioning from intense law firm work to leading legal teams at Professional Case Management and PCM Trials. In this…
What It Takes To Embrace A Leadership Role With Stacy Bratcher
Embracing any leadership role requires not only the necessary skills or knowledge. It is also about taking initiative, building relationships, and driving actual results. Joseph Schohl welcomes Stacy…
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Becoming the GC has published 24 episodes since February 2025, covering topics in Business, Careers.
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