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Behind the Counter - Business Stories from the Four Corners:
Real Businesses. Real Conversations. Right Here in Our Community.
Every week, I sit down with local business owners to hear the real stories behind their work — the highs, the lows, and everything in between. Whether they run a bakery, a repair shop, or a creative studio, each of them has something powerful to share.
This is more than a podcast — it’s a celebration of the hustle, heart, and humanity that keep the Four Corners thriving.
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S2E9 From Family Pub To Powerhouse
Send a textWhat does it take to turn a family pub into a community anchor that thrives on and off-site? Louie McMullen, co-owner of Clancy’s Pub, opens up about the long game: honoring a legacy that…
S2E8 AI Can Make Output, But Only Humans Build Strategy
Send a textThe conversation starts with a candid pivot: we turned the mic on our own shop to explain why we stepped back from day-to-day marketing, spent two years pressure-testing AI, and then chose…
S2E7 How A Hobby Became A Community Staple And Grew Confidence Along The Way
Send a textBeauty doesn’t happen by accident; it’s stitched from patience, problem solving, and a little glitter that somehow gets everywhere. We sit with Jamie Goodwin, the heart behind JG Cross…
S2E6 How A 23-Year-Old Built Blooming Ember Massage Into A Calming Local Haven
Send a textA quiet studio, a steady hand, and a young owner who chose peace over perfection—this is the story of Blooming Ember Massage through the eyes of its founder, Callie Frost. She walked away…
S2E5 A Cancer Diagnosis Paused Her Career, So She Grew A Flower Farm That Healed Her And Her Community
Send a textA quiet field can feel like a heartbeat when life gets loud. That’s the energy Heather Martinez brings to Desert Bunny Blooms—a flower farm born from a job loss, tempered by a cancer…
S2E4 From Farmers Market To Global Orders
Send a textWhat does it take to turn a weekend candle hobby into a fast-growing brand that ships across the country and overseas? We sit down with Josh Velasquez, founder of Dark Wick Candle Co, to…
S2E3 How Two Friends Turn Stones, Energy, And Curiosity Into A Life Of Service
Send a textWhat if peace — not profit — became your definition of success? That’s where we land as Deborah and Sandra share how a lifetime of friendship turned into two distinct, purpose-led paths:…
S2E2 What If Success Is Helping A Town Believe In Its Own Art?
Send a textA single painting can hold a lifetime — joy, grief, and the courage to start again. That’s the energy we explore with painter Karen Ellsbury, co-owner of HEart Gallery in downtown…
S2E1 Designed To Work, Not Wear You Out
Send a textWant a business that works without wearing you out? We zoom out after a full season of conversations with owners across industries and pull forward the patterns that actually make small…
S1E12 Subscribed People Get Gifts Early, No Wrapping Required
Send a textTake a breath with us. As the holidays arrive, we’re pressing pause to recharge, reflect, and set up a stronger return in January—while giving you a clear path to keep up with new stories…
S1E11 Chocolate, Magic, And A Cottage Factory
Send a textA cottage at the edge of a national park. A clock that dispenses chocolate. A host who can pivot from crystal structures in tempering to a groan-worthy deer joke in one beat. Meet Bryan…
S1E10 We Put The “Art” In “Party” And The “Roll” In Cinnamon
Send a textStep inside a 10,000-square-foot creative hub where the scent of fresh cinnamon rolls mingles with oil paint and coffee, and a century-old lumberyard has a second life as Farmington’s…
S1E9 Gratitude, Grit, And Year-End Sales Momentum
Send a textA short break can be a powerful reset, and this Thanksgiving we’re using the pause to sharpen focus, build momentum, and double down on what works. Ken Collins opens up about why gratitude…
S1E8 From Studio Dreams To Dance Legacy
Send a textA lot of people say “follow your passion” — few show the messy, determined work that makes it sustainable. We sit with AnnMarie Bean, owner of AnnMarie’s Dance Academy in Farmington, to…
S1E7 What If Serendipity Is The Best Business Plan
Send a textA 16-acre orchard, a taxing year, and a knock from fate: that’s how Niki Hilbers found her way from selling fruit to building a year-round honey brand with real roots in the Four Corners.…
S1E6 How A Spiritual Wake-Up Led To A Community-Fueled Mushroom Business
Send a textA curtain for a tablecloth and a pocket of courage—that’s how Courtney Anderson’s mushroom journey began. What followed is a rare blend of patient craft, community warmth, and customer-led…
S1E5 How A Woodworker Turned Fine Furniture, Smart Jigs, And Instagram Into A Thriving Business
Send a textThe best furniture tells a story you can feel in your hands—and sometimes hides a secret. We sit with master maker Ramon Valdez to unpack how marquetry, tight joinery, and magnetic hidden…
S1E4 The Filler Episode That Accidentally Becomes A Masterclass
Send a textA confession with teeth. We missed a week, and instead of glossing over it, we break down why new projects fall through the cracks—and how to build systems that keep your work on track…
S1E3 River, Roots, and Rafts
Send a textImagine floating past sunlit bluffs while otters slip through willow shadows and a guide turns river science into basketballs-per-second. That’s the unexpected magic Cody Dudgeon and…
S1E2 A Legacy on Air: Partnership, Reinvention, and the Joy of Not Quitting
Send a textIt's all about InterWest ConceptsWe trace how a radio lifer (David Mills) and a systems-savvy producer (Ren Harris) built a genre-hopping Sunday show on KSJE by mixing curiosity, comfort,…
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Behind the Counter has published 21 episodes since August 2025, covering topics in Business, Management.
Behind the Counter is currently highly active with new episodes weekly. Average episode length is 42m.
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