Cabernet and Pray
Jeremy Jernigan
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Saints, Sinners, and Clickers (with Matthew Distefano) | Ep. 74
What do saints, sinners, and zombies have in common? In this episode, Jeremy sits down with author Matthew DiStefano to talk about his book on The Last of Us, the video game that somehow became one…
The Feral Spirit (with Ben Price) | Ep. 73
Ben introduces the idea of the "feral spirit," a way of understanding spiritual encounter that doesn't require institutional scaffolding to be real. He talks about what happens when churches try to…
The Congruent Life (with C.E. Jarnagin) | Ep. 72
What do you do when the very people who introduced you to Jesus can no longer recognize the Jesus your faith has led you to? C.E. Jarnagin is a priest, researcher, and author who's asking that exact…
Finding Beauty in Distinctions (with Bethany Cseh) | Ep. 71
Bethany Cseh is a pastor who spent years standing at a pulpit she wasn't sure she was allowed to occupy, internally justifying each sermon as something other than what it actually was. That tension…
Church as a Public Library (with Beau Stringer) | Ep. 70
Beau Stringer spent years as a lead pastor in evangelical spaces. He's on the other side of that now, working in adult discipleship at one of the largest United Methodist churches in the country and…
Psychological Safety (with Anthony Parrott) | Ep. 69
What does it actually take for a church to be a safe place? Anthony Parrott, co-pastor of Table Church DC, has spent 17 years in ministry and a lifetime accumulating enough theology to know when it…
Where Satire Meets Spirituality (with Stuart Delony) | Ep. 68
What happens when a former pastor trades the pulpit for a microphone? In this episode, we sit down with Stuart Delony, host of Snarky Faith and author of The Tribulation Survival Guide, for a…
Faith and the Public Square (with Collin Packer) | Ep. 67
This week on Cabernet & Pray, we sit down with Collin Packer for a conversation that feels as honest as it is necessary. Collin shares his journey from fundamentalist pastor to working in the…
The Mountains Shall Drip Sweet Wine (with John Anthony Dunne) | Ep. 66
What if the Bible’s most familiar wine stories have been quietly misunderstood all along? In this episode of Cabernet and Pray, Jeremy sits down with New Testament scholar John Anthony Dunne, author…
The Atheist Pentecostal (with Colten Barnaby) | Ep. 65
What happens when someone can no longer believe in God—but still can’t let go of Jesus, Pentecostalism, or the church that formed them? In this episode, Jeremy sits down with Colten Barnaby, who…
Cathedrals of Connection (with Matt Mattson) | Ep. 64
What if the most sacred spaces in your life aren’t churches at all, but ordinary moments of shared humanity? In this episode of Cabernet and Pray, Jeremy sits down with author and spiritual guide…
Beyond Deconstruction (with James McGrath) | Ep. 63
What comes after deconstruction? In this episode, I sit down with James McGrath to talk about what it looks like to move beyond tearing faith down and begin the slower, braver work of rebuilding it…
The Courage to Differ Graciously (with Brian McLaren) | Ep. 62
What if the real spiritual crisis isn’t disagreement, but how we disagree? In this episode, we explore why certainty has replaced curiosity and why faith so often becomes brittle instead of…
The Root and the Fruit (with David Hayward) | Ep. 61
What if the faith you inherited isn’t the faith you actually want to keep? In this episode, I sit down with David Hayward—yes, the Naked Pastor himself—to talk about the root systems beneath our…
Between the Pulpit and the Pub (with Gavin Linderman) | Ep. 60
What happens when a pastor decides the real mission field isn’t inside the church walls… but somewhere between the pulpit and the pub? In this episode, Gavin Linderman and I dive into the beautifully…
A Beautiful Year (with Diana Butler Bass) | Ep. 59
What if beauty isn’t something we chase, but something that’s been waiting for us all along? In this episode of Cabernet & Pray, we sit down with author and theologian Diana Butler Bass to talk…
Separation of Church and Hate (with John Fugelsang) | Ep. 58
What happens when Christianity gets weaponized for political gain? When culture wars hijack the gospel of love? In this episode, we unpack John Fugelsang's book, Separation of Church and…
The Fellowship of Guilt | Ep. 57
What if doing the right thing still made you guilty? Dietrich Bonhoeffer believed that following Jesus sometimes meant stepping straight into the mess—into what he called “the fellowship of guilt.”…
Hell Bent (with Brian Recker) | Ep. 56
What happens when Christians start rethinking the very idea of hell? In this episode of Cabernet and Pray, we sit down with Brian Recker to ask the questions many of us were told we weren’t allowed…
Downsizing Evangelicalism (with Michelle Van Loon) | Ep. 55
What if the shrinking of evangelicalism isn’t a crisis to be feared but an opportunity to rediscover something truer, leaner, and more like Jesus? In this episode, I sit down with author Michelle Van…
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