Damn Good Interior Designer

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Cheryl Kees Clendenon and Liz Lapan

English Arts Business Design Entrepreneurship Marketing

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Episodes 79

Avg. Duration 38m

Activity Highly Active

Apple Rating ★ 4.9 (30)

Since Sep 2023

Latest Episode Jun 2026

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Every 2 Weeks

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77%

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About This Podcast

Join Cheryl Kees Clendenon and Liz Lapan, the dynamic duo behind the visionary and integrator balancing all the moving parts of a full service interior design firm in their no-nonsense and thought-provoking podcast, the Damn Good Designer. Each episode is full of damn good truths and real talk as they share invaluable insights on how to run and build a successful business while challenging the norms, the industry, each other and YOU. Emphasizing a business-savvy approach, Cheryl and Liz take you on a roller coaster of discovery, considering success from a different lens, breaking free from groupthink, and encouraging you to embrace your own authentic designer self. There is not much they will not say “out loud”. In this podcast, you'll find no room for conformity as they shatter the mold of one-size-fits-all business practices. Cheryl's fearless attitude showcases a refusal to follow the conventional wisdom, ask “why” repeatedly and reject what no longer makes sense in today’s world. If you're seeking a dose of inspiration, a splash of unconventional wisdom, and a refreshing perspective on the entrepreneurial world, the Damn Good Designer is your go-to podcast. Tune in and let Cheryl and Liz, along with their expert guests in the fields of designers, architects, landscapers, and other creative professionals, guide you toward building a remarkable business that defies norms and sets you on a path to unparalleled success."Get ready to challenge the ordinary and embrace the extraordinary! About the hosts: Cheryl Kees Clendenon- 2021 KBB Person of the year 2022 Design Studio winner Dallas Arts Awards 2021 Changemaker Design Hounds 200 or so years ago a child came roaring into the world feet first ready to show up and argue a cause. Just because. Her mother still maintains the story is- she was screaming-“why”- from the minute she landed wrong side up and slapped the doctor for disturbing her afternoon nap And to this day does not give “it” a rest except when she is sleeping. Which is where you will find her only between the hours of 2am and 7:30am. A belligerent non-smoker (in case you were wondering) and a frequent challenger of anything that resembles “normal” or desired by the masses, Cheryl is a natural born contrarian who talks faster than 2x speed on a podcast She gravitates towards wanting to help clients and designers who are the square pegs in a world of round holes, lose earrings impossibly frequently, fall off of platform shoes and are unapologetically saucy. Relaxing is not in the skill set. Life begins and ends with family. Her sacred words are: Why, Percipient, Whizbang and Profit. But please do not say the words: Package, Blocks, Red Flag, Overwhelm or Picked. Hives break out and it gets ugly. Liz Lapan VP of Everything, Interior Designer, Work Wife, Team Cook, Unicorns People ask, when did you KNOW you had found your ideal work wife- Cheryl will reply ” When she drew me 8 different cacti on her 3rd day because I said -find me a damn cactus” The woman who has never been through an airport without being extended an invitation to stop and play show and tell with the contents of her backpack, can single handedly plow snow with a rake and rescue her boss in a snowstorm in Arizona.–yes, I said Arizona–after sleeping all night in a tuna can of a rental car. An accomplished designer in her own right with an amazing sense of color and pattern, Liz can wear the designer hat in the morning, the project manager hat at noon and return to the office being the ultimate manager of all the things. Client’s love her, Subs respect her and the team adores the woman who gets “it” done-whatever “it” may be. RESOURCES: www.damngooddesigner.com https://www.theinteriordesignparadigm.com/ Want to be a guest? Apply here: https://forms.clickup.com/8404193/f/80f71-613517/PFK3QDSALZ30VONMTP

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Recent Episodes

S3E74 Season 3 Ep 74: DESIGNER DRAMA - Why some designers are marketing themselves into lower fees

Jun 02, 2026 17m

Visibility matters, but posting yourself in your bath robe is not the same thing as building authority and for designers this can backfire fast.Because design is not an impulse buy. Clients are not…

S3E73 Season 3 Ep 73: When big risks, make for bigger rewards

May 26, 2026 1h 10m

Cabinetry may be one of the biggest money opportunities hiding in plain sight for interior designers, but it is not for the faint of heart.In this episode, Cheryl sits down with Brooke Eversoll of…

S3E72 Season 3 Ep 72: DESIGNER DRAMA - You cannot legislate good behavior

May 12, 2026 18m

Our Asked and Answered segments have done so well we also noticed a common theme scrolling through social media that needed its own segment - introducing 'Designer Drama: Is it the client or is it…

S3E71 Season 3 Ep 71: Judgement is the new currency

Apr 28, 2026 17m

AI can generate ideas in seconds. That’s not the threat.In this episode, Cheryl gets straight to it—designers are no longer being hired for ideas but for their judgment. This means knowing what…

S3E71 TOP EPISODE OF SEASON 3! Why Selling Yourself Short in K&B Cost You Big

Apr 21, 2026 57m

Listen to our TOP episode of Season 3! Kitchen and bath design must be treated — and priced — as the high-level specialty it is. These are not "just another room" — instead, they are some of the most…

S3E70 Season 3 Ep 70: ASKED & ANSWERED - What Do I Do When Construction Bids Blow My Client’s Budget?

Apr 07, 2026 49m

When construction bids come back higher than expected, it can stop a project in its tracks and shake a client’s confidence fast. Cheryl and Liz discuss exactly how to handle that moment without…

S3E69 Season 3 Ep 69: ASKED & ANSWERED - Why your pricing sounds expensive (even when it's not)

Mar 24, 2026 32m

Designers think their pricing problem is the number, but the real issue is how that number is positioned. In this episode, Cheryl breaks down why client pushback isn’t about being too expensive but…

S3E68 Season 3 Ep 68: How Education is the New Advantage with Special Guest Veronika Miller

Mar 04, 2026 50m

Industry events are not vacations, designers can utilize these trips to create relationships with vendors. In this episode, Cheryl speaks LIVE from KBIS and sits down with special guest, Veronika…

S3E67 Season 3 Ep 67: Are You Asking? Negotiating with Vendors

Feb 24, 2026 22m

If you sell product, you should be asking.In this episode, Cheryl and Liz discuss how to build vendor relationships that actually improve your margin with better pricing, extra percentages, showroom…

S3E66 Season 3 Ep 66: When Good People are in the Wrong Roles

Feb 10, 2026 53m

Hiring is one of the most expensive lessons a design firm will ever lear and it’s rarely because the person was “bad.” In this episode, Cheryl and Liz unpack the real reason team hires go sideways:…

S3E65 Season 3 Ep 65: ASKED & ANSWERED - What am I missing that keeps window treatments from feeling seamless?

Jan 27, 2026 13m

Window treatments are often treated as a finishing touch, but that mindset is what keeps them from being profitable. In this Asked & Answered episode, Liz is going solo this week and walks you…

S3E64 Season 3 Ep 64: Refining Your Design IQ with Your Furniture Design

Jan 20, 2026 26m

Refining your design IQ with furniture means understanding how details like orientation, cushion construction, and intended use impact the final outcome. Cheryl and Liz break down the real-world…

S3E63 Season 3 Ep 63: The space you create is the business you build

Jan 13, 2026 46m

Your workspace is not neutral. It either supports your growth or quietly works against it. In this episode, Cheryl and Liz talk about the emotional, creative, and business implications of where…

S3E62 Season 3 Ep 62: You are already doing the work, why aren't you selling it?

Dec 30, 2025 30m

Clients don’t know what they need until you show them—and when you don’t engage that conversation, you leave both value and profit behind. Designers often miss additional profit opportunities inside…

S3E61 Season 3 Ep 61: Why waiting for the contractor to lead can be a mistake

Dec 16, 2025 43m

Most project problems don’t start on the job site. They start much earlier, when assumptions are made, roles aren’t defined, and everyone thinks someone else is handling it. In this episode, Cheryl…

S3E60 Season 3 Ep 60: Your Team cannot read your mind. Do something about it.

Dec 02, 2025 51m

It is always a treat when you hire people you genuinely like until you realize you now have to train them while juggling active projects, client demands, and the never-ending to-do list already…

S3E59 Season 3 Ep 59: If you confuse them, you lose them. Period.

Nov 17, 2025 55m

The confusion you accidentally create long before the proposal ever hits your clients inbox is the real reason clients hesitate. Your price is not the problem. You can unintentionally create…

S3E58 Season 3 Ep 58: ASKED & ANSWERED - I'm scared to tell potential clients we aren't taking new projects right now. What do I do?

Nov 04, 2025 20m

Every designer has run into this situation before—the panic of too many projects, too little time, and clients who “need it done now.” Your timelines aren’t the enemy; but poor planning is. When you…

S3E57 Season 3 Ep 57: Should we, just because we can?

Oct 16, 2025 49m

Just because you can take on another project doesn’t mean you should. In this episode, Cheryl and Liz unpack what it really takes to manage your firm’s capacity—not just your time, but your energy,…

S3E56 Season 3 Ep 56: ASKED AND ANSWERED - My client is finding everything going wrong & I can’t get ahead of it, help me before I fire her!

Sep 30, 2025 25m

One of the the biggest challenges designers face with managing client expectations is how to stop overpromising and start being intentional with your process. After a recent coaching call with one of…

Frequently Asked Questions

How many episodes does Damn Good Interior Designer have?

Damn Good Interior Designer has published 79 episodes since September 2023, covering topics in Arts, Business.

Is Damn Good Interior Designer still active?

Damn Good Interior Designer is currently highly active with new episodes every 2 weeks. Average episode length is 38m.

How do I contact Damn Good Interior Designer for sponsorship or guest appearances?