Dead Frog in the Driveway
Drew Rockwell, Patricia Williams, Joni B. Cole
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About This Podcast
An author, a psychotherapist, and an entrepreneur walked into a bar. What came out is Dead Frog in the Driveway, a podcast that celebrates our potential as creative beings. No matter who you are. No matter what you might believe. No matter what you’ve been told. If you’ve ever wrestled with a blank page, a stuck idea, or a shifting sense of purpose, we hope you’ll find some inspiration from this podcast.
Our show is co-hosted by Joni B. Cole (www.jonibcole.com); Pat Williams, and Drew Rockwell, who still believes his Dead Frog in the Driveway story deserved a much better grade.
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Producer: Helmut Baer
Cover Art by Bartlett Leber
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Episode 8 - "I'm no good at plotting."
Of all the insecurities writers confront, this is one of the most vexing. But is it true? Or are these writers looking at plotting the wrong way? In this episode, Pat, Drew, and Joni offer insights…
Episode 7 - Why now? In times of angst, what is the role of creativity?
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Episode 6 - Do People Age out of Creativity?
Rumor has it, the older we get, the less creative we become? In this episode, Pat, Drew, and Joni challenge this cultural narrative with plenty of stories and experiences that prove otherwise. They…
Episode 5 - Getting unstuck. What to do when your creativity has left the building?
Who hasn't? Drew, Pat, and Joni unpack what it means to be stuck, why it happens, and offer navigation tips for those moments when the creative police come knocking. Discover why moving plants…
Episode 4 - Why craft vis-à-vis the creative process can be so vexing.
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Episode 3 - Why creativity now?
Because creating—especially when it feels hardest—is how we embrace hope and resist despair. Drew, Pat, and Joni reflect on art as protest, play, and the quiet work of staying alive to the world.
Episode 2 - Aren’t we supposed to be suffering artists?
Find out what happens when Pat is confronted with a do-it-yourself dresser with 4000 pieces. Pat, Drew, and Joni explore the tortured artist, moments of frustration, and discover dependable joy in…
Episode 1 - So you think you’re not creative. Think again.
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Dead Frog in the Driveway has published 10 episodes since January 2026, covering topics in Arts.
Dead Frog in the Driveway is currently highly active with new episodes every 2 weeks. Average episode length is 29m.