Deconstructing Mamas
Lizz Enns Petters and Esther Joy Goetz
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If you are trying to figure out how to navigate the tricky tightrope of parenting while you have questions, doubts and wonderings about your spiritual journey, this podcast is for you. It doesn't matter if your kids are smalls, middles, or bigs. We will explore what and how we are deconstructing from churchianity, harmful belief systems, and diving deep into the ways we can work this out in parenthood. We will also work through ideas for reconstructing a space for our families to thrive under new systems of love and freedom. We can't wait to bring you some hope that you are not alone and that it's really okay, even good, to explore all the possibilities that may have felt closed off in the past. This podcast will offer you grace and space to be exactly where you are and who you are. We are glad you are here.
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S8E100 Grace and Space (Looking Back, Looking Forward) - Lizz Enns Petters & Esther Joy Goetz
After eight seasons, countless conversations, and a whole lot of laughter, tears, unraveling, and becoming, we are releasing our final episode of the Deconstructing Mamas podcast.This one is…
S8E99 Love as Resistance - Dr. Glenn Siepert
In this powerful and honest conversation, Esther and Liz sit down with returning guest and friend Dr. Glenn Siepert — author, artist, and creator of The What If Project. Together, they explore:✨ What…
S8E98 Reimagining Community - Lizz Enns Petters & Esther Joy Goetz
In this third-to-last episode of Deconstructing Mamas, we talk about one of the biggest questions we’ve been asked over the past four years:What does community look like now, after everything we’ve…
S8E97 Sacred Rage - Ben Cremer
We sat down with Rev. Benjamin Cremer, writer, pastor, and creator of Into the Gray, to talk about what it looks like to hold sacred anger with open hands.This conversation stretched from “What if…
S8E96 Learning to Trust What we Feel - Lizz Enns Petters & Esther Joy Goetz
In this vulnerable and deeply human conversation, Esther and Lizz open up about the long, complicated process of learning to trust their emotions — after being raised in systems that taught them not…
S8E95 Walking the Middle Path - Dr. Camden Morgante
Licensed psychologist and author Dr. Camden Morgante joins us to explore the “middle path” from DBT and how it reshapes faith, nervous-system healing, sexuality, and parenting after high-control…
S8E94 The Sacred Fog of the In-Between - Lizz Enns Petters & Esther Joy Goetz
In this week’s episode, Lizz and Esther talk about the in-between—that blurry stretch between certainty and freedom. We talk about control and compassion, about nervous systems that don’t need…
S8E93 Raising Ourselves - Shelley Robinson
We sat down with Shelly Robinson, founder of Raising Yourself, for a conversation about parenting on two levels at once. It’s packed with wisdom, humor, humility, and practical tools for those messy…
S8E92 Parenting Beyond Fear - Lizz & Esther
In this week’s episode, we dive straight into the heart of fear-based parenting — where it comes from, how it still shows up, and how we begin to choose something different. We ask ourselves the…
S8E91 The Cost of Deconstructing - MK Backstrom
If you’ve ever stepped away from high-control religion, you know there’s a cost. Sometimes it’s obvious—the loss of community, relationships, or even belonging in your own family. Other times, it’s…
S8E90 Our Three-Legged Race - Lizz Enns Petters & Esther Joy Goetz
Welcome to Season Eight!This is the beginning of the final season of our podcast!This week, the two of us are chatting through these questions:1. What’s one word or image that comes to mind when you…
S7E89 Allowed to Explore - Lizz Enns Petters
Our episode this week is with our own Lizz Enns Petters, mom of two, author and podcast hostess.Our conversation is full of laughter, seriousness and our decision to have permission to explore our…
S7E88 Recovering Sex - the Sexvangelicals (Julia Postema and Jeremiah Gibson)
“There's a misconception that once you leave religion, you magically learn everything you missed about relationships and sex” - The SexvangelicalsOur episode this week is with Jeremiah Gibson and…
S7E87 Blessed are the Women - Claire K. McKeever-Burgett
''Without women we don’t have Jesus. We don’t have Christianity. We don’t have any of it.” (Claire K. McKeever-Burgett)Our episode this week is with Claire K. McKeever-Burgett, mom of two and author…
S7E86 Rebellion or Integrity? - Jamin Coller
'''Diligent study is precisely what got us here." Jamin CollerOur episode this week is with Jamin Coller, dad of six, podcaster and author of Dear Evangelicals.Our conversation is passionate, funny…
S7E85 I Would Pick You (Queer Advocacy) - Rachel Pinto-Martin
'''Our job as parents is not to make other people comfortable with how we raise our kids, Our job is to make sure our kids grow up in a family where they’re comfortable being exactly who they are.''…
S7E84 Powerful Parenting - Wendy Snyder
"Where did we ever get the notion that in order for children to behave better, they first have to feel worse?" Our episode this week is with Wendy Snyder, founder of Fresh Start Family, mom of two…
S7E83 Jesus vs the Bad Guys? - Jared Neusch and Connor Shram
"In the end, Jesus proved that forgiveness is more powerful than punches and kicks. And in the end, love wins over hate." - Jared Neusch and Connor Shram in their book: Jesus vs. the Bad GuysOur…
S7E82 Reimagining Easter - Sarah Swartzendruber
You don’t have to the answers to why Jesus died to talk about Easter with your kids. (Sarah Swartzendruber)Our episode this week is with our resident Children's Pastor, childhood development expert,…
S7E81 Aligning Faith with Soul - Chelan Harkin
The worst thing we ever did is pretend God isn’t the easiest thing in this Universe available to every soul in every breath. (Chelan Harkin)Our episode this week is with Chelan Harkin, mama to two…
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Deconstructing Mamas has published 100 episodes since March 2022, covering topics in Kids & Family, Parenting.
Deconstructing Mamas is currently dormant with new episodes weekly. Average episode length is 51m.
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