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S14E197 The People Advantage: Why Your Team Isn't Winning
In Episode 197, Phil and Paul continue the Season 14 theme—The People Advantage—by diving into a foundational truth: you lead how you're wired, and you play how you lead. Building on Episode 1, they…
S14E196 The People Advantage: Why Most Team Problems Aren't About Skill or Talent
In Episode 196, Phil and Paul kick off a new format for Season 14—short, high-impact leadership episodes centered around one core theme: The People Advantage. Over the next 10 episodes, they will…
S13E195 Paul Caliguiri -- Faith, Perseverance, and National Team Glory (Re-cast)
In Episode 195, we are re-casting our episode with Paul Caligiuri, OCFC Manager, US Nat'l Soccer Hall of Famer, Former USMNT defender/midfielder and pro player in US and Germany, one of the first…
S13E194 Phil Darke - How to Build Better Teams and Stronger Relationships
In Episode 194, we're recasting Offseason Talk, Volume 2, where host Phil Darke breaks down why understanding and implementing the DISC Model of Human Behavior can be one of the most practical and…
S13E193 Cori Close, UCLA Women's BB Head Coach—Leading with a Broom and a Shovel (RECAST)
In Episode 193, we are recasting our incredible interview with Cori Close, Head Coach of UCLA Women's Basketball, who talked with Phil about lessons she learned from her mentor, John Wooden, her…
S13E192 Phil and Paul – The "Nor-Way" - Season 13 Post-Match Show
In Episode 192, Phil and Paul recap their highlights from the great interviews we've had in Season 13 and discuss the "Nor-Way. We discuss what it is, why it is relevant to this podcast, and whether…
S13E191 Jim Spence – Faithfulness and Leading with Compassion
In Episode 191, Phil and Paul sat down with Jim Spence, founder of Sports Quest, to explore a 30-year journey of soccer ministry, leadership development, and faithful obedience. Jim shares how a…
S13E190 Developing Players for Life - Season 13 Water Break with Paul and Phil
In Episode 190, Phil and Paul dive into the importance of individual and team development in every level of soccer. They discuss the role of effective communication between coaches and players,…
S13E189 Thuy Williams – Saving Lives and Overcoming Adversity with All Abilities
In Episode 189, Phil and Paul had a great conversation with Thuy Williams, an incredible athlete and coach of the US Amputee Soccer National Team using her skills and talents in the world of…
S13E188 What Makes a Leader? with Wells Thompson, Co-Founder of Soccer Resilience and Former MLS Midfielder - RECAST
In Episode 188, we are re-casting our conversation with Wells Thompson, Former MLS midfielder and 1st Round Draft Pick, Co-Founder of Soccer Resilience, husband, and father. This was our most…
S13E187 HSEL 2025 Year-End Special – Top 5 Episodes and Highlights
In Episode 187, Phil and Paul reflect on their top HSEL episodes and their personal highlights of 2025. They discuss lessons learned from various guests, personal highs and lows, including…
S13E186 Carl Dambman – Wrestling with Faith and Leadership
In Episode 186, Carl Dambman, Athletes in Action Missionary, Olympic Wrestler, Author of In God's Grip, husband, and father, talks with Phil and Paul about his unique journey with wrestling and…
S13E185 Warren Mainard – Impact Players & Audacious Authenticity
In Episode 185, Warren Mainard, Executive Director of Impact Players, husband, and father, talks with Phil and Paul about how his tennis career shaped his approach to life and leadership. The…
S13E184 Season 13 Halftime Show – Redeeming Your Time
In Episode 184, Phil and Paul reflect on the first half of Season 13, discussing highlights from their conversations with Greg Rubendall, Rick McKinley, Becca Darke, and Peter Greer. They also talk…
S13E183 Peter Greer – Avoiding Personal Mission Drift and Finishing Well
In Episode 183, we are sharing with you an interview from Phil's other podcast, Think Global, Do Justice, with Peter Greer, President of Hope International and Author of How Leaders Lose Their Way…
S13E182 Becca Darke – Overcoming Injuries, Receiving Identity, and Making Room
In Episode 182, Becca Darke, Colorado College Women's Soccer Hall of Famer, former PE Teacher, former Athletes in Action staff, mother of five, and, yes, wife of Phil, shares with Phil and Paul about…
S13E181 Achieved vs. Received Identity with Graham Daniels, Director of Cambridge United and Christians in Sport - RECAST
In Episode 181, we are giving you an annual dose of one of our favorite interviews of all time, going back to our conversation with Graham Daniels, Ph.D., Director of Cambridge United, Director of…
S13E180 Rick McKinley – Loving God and Others Through Soccer
In Episode 180, Rick McKinley, Missionary Athletes International's (MAI) Director of Int'l Tours. Shares with Phil and Paul his extensive journey through sports, including impactful stories from his…
S13E179 Greg Rubendall - Cultivate Your Garden
In Episode 179, Phil and Paul engage in an eclectic and wide-ranging conversation with Greg Rubendall, who has recently started a new venture in Sacramento, ASC Midtown, and a new podcast, "The Road…
S13E178 Season 13 Kickoff Show – Lessons from the Field
In Episode 178, Phil and Paul reconnect to kick off Season 13, reflecting on their eventful summer and discussing key leadership lessons they learned along the way. They share personal stories and a…
