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Leadership is the Difference Maker
On this podcast, former CEO of three AFL clubs and founder of designCEO, Cameron Schwab, unlocks leadership and the lessons earned and learned by the very leaders who dare to fail greatly.
This audio encyclopaedia of leadership knowledge borrows and shares the wisdom that can only be learnt In the Arena, allowing the listener to apply uniquely to their own role in work, business and life.
Challenge your own leadership conventions and be taken on a journey that meets you where you are but doesn’t leave you where it finds you.
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S1E34 Dave Misson - "It's never about you"
Dave Misson has spent a career where most people would never know his name, and that's exactly the point. High performance manager across Tennis Australia, Australian Cricket, the Sydney Swans, St…
S1E33 Janey Martino - 'Celebrating the cracks'
Janey Martino built Smiling Mind, one of Australia's most impactful not-for-profits, led businesses, coached founders, and is now back in the CEO chair at KIC. But this conversation isn't about what…
S1E32 Neil Craig - 'A game never won'
Neil Craig is the first guest we've brought back into the arena — and for good reason. He's 70, coaching leaders at the Australian Institute of Sport, and still the most curious person in any room he…
S1E31 Gabrielle Dolan - 'Leading with story'
I can’t remember exactly when I first heard the statement: “If it’s too obvious, it can’t be trusted.”This thought comes to mind when I am speaking with Gabrielle Dolan, a leader I have come to know…
S1E30 Dr. Damien Taylor - 'The second mountain'
There comes a time when every leader must pause and take stock.For Dr Taylor, it’s the passage between age 40 and 55, a stretch of life that exposes both the weight and the cost of relentless…
S1E29 Jenny George - 'A different way of hearing things'
Jenny George runs Melbourne Business School - #1 in Australia. "A CEO is a symbol of what matters," she says. "Every choice you make — what you wear, where you sit, how you spend your time — tells…
S1E28 Maggie Roberts - 'The pain of standing still'
At sixteen, Maggie Roberts broke her back three weeks before the Olympic diving trials. Eight months later, at three in the morning, she made a decision that would define her life: she went for a…
S1E27 John Didulica - 'Without fear or favour'
"Unless you have a deeper sense of what sport can be, it’s impossible to navigate the ups and downs you face every day."John Didulica grew up in football clubs forged by migrants, led by his…
S1E26 Paul Marsh - 'Carrying the weight forward'
When bombs exploded near the Australian cricket team's hotel in Pakistan, Paul Marsh was just 33 and only weeks into his role as CEO of the Australian Cricketers' Association. No playbook. No…
S1E25 Ameet Bains - 'Just be you'
For leaders, 'not knowing' is our greatest source of vulnerability. Leadership is in the business of ambiguity - if not for ambiguity, we don't need leadership.In this episode, Western Bulldogs CEO…
S1E24 Lisa Alexander - 'Sisters in arms'
Sisters in Arms The moments that meet you where you are—but never leave you where they found you.Lisa Alexander’s story doesn’t begin on the court. It begins with a diary, a pen, and the quiet…
S1E23 Craig Foster - 'Courage over comfort'
Courage Over ComfortWhen I had the choice…Craig Foster was 23 when he first chose courage over comfort. Rising through the Socceroos, he saw older teammates being denied medical treatment, players…
S1E22 Marne Fechner - 'Be scared and do it anyway'
Creating belonging in the unknownWhen leadership demands you build what doesn't existThis conversation with Marne Fechner, CEO of AusCycling, speaks to one of leadership's fundamental truths: it…
S1E21 Cody Royle - 'A second set of eyes'
In this episode of "In the Arena," coach and author Cody Royle explores what might be the greatest irony in leadership: those of us who believe deeply in coaching often refuse to be coached…
S1E20 Neil Balme - 'The multiplier effect'.
Neil Balme is one of those people that you immediately feel good about. Charismatic with a big presence, quick and eager to find humour even in the most challenging situations, disarmingly…
S1E19 Nick Stone- 'Knowing self. Connecting others.'
I recently had the privilege of sitting down with Nick Stone, whose journey from AFL journeyman to founder of Bluestone Lane, America's fastest-growing premium café brand, exemplifies resilience and…
S1E18 Joe Barr - 'Leading with questions'
"If you are not genuine with people, you won't get anything. You won't get productivity, won't get ideas, you won't get innovation, and you won't get a safe building site." - Joe BarrWhen Joe Barr…
S1E17 Cameron Schwab - 'Come to play'
Come to Play"Just be a good person, Cameron."I have put myself back 'In the Arena', this time on the other side of the podcast desk.Soon, I found myself having a conversation I had never had.This is…
S1E16 Andy Gowers - 'What unites us'
Hawthorn Football Club President Andy Gowers’ leadership beliefs do not reveal themselves through grand declarations or certainties but through a willingness to embrace complexity.It is an effort to…
S1E15 Layne Beachley - 'I’m a helper, not a healer'
"You Can't Stop the Waves, But You Can Learn How to Surf" I've used this Jon Kabat-Zinn quote countless times in my presentations, conversations and keynotes with leaders, with an image of Layne…
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In The Arena has published 35 episodes since April 2024, covering topics in Business, Sports.
In The Arena is currently highly active with new episodes monthly. Average episode length is 1h 26m.
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