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What does it actually take to build a mind? Cognitive scientist Danielle Perszyk sits down with world-class researchers, academics, and industry pioneers to explore the science of intelligence — from its evolutionary and cultural origins to the frontiers of AI. Challenging simplistic narratives about the race to superintelligence, each conversation unpacks how humans think, learn, and collaborate, and what that means for the machines we're building.
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S2 BONUS - Building agents that work in the real world: Live from SXSW
While we gear up for Season 2, we're sharing a special episode to bridge the seasons. Recorded live at SXSW, this conversation examines how AI agents are moving out of controlled research…
S1E8 Cyborg Psychology with Dr. Pat Pataranutaporn
What would it mean to design AI for human flourishing? In the final episode of this season of “Making a Mind,” Cognitive scientist Dr. Danielle Perszyk sits down with Dr. Pat Pataranutaporn,…
S1E7 Creating Tools That Use Tools with Vibhaa Sivaraman
Human minds are scaffolded by the tools we create, but what happens when we build tools that can use other tools? Cognitive scientist Danielle Perszyk sits down with AI researcher Vibhaa Sivaraman…
S1E6 Eliciting Agent Reasoning with Meiqi Sun
Pre-trained language models already contain vast knowledge—the challenge is producing the reasoning needed to handle ambiguous, multi-step tasks. Cognitive scientist Dr. Danielle Perszyk sits down…
S1E5 Developing Agent Learning Curriculums with Anirudh Chakravarthy
What if the key to building intelligent agents isn't just better models, but better teachers? Cognitive scientist Dr. Danielle Perszyk sits down with AI researcher Anirudh (Ani) Chakravarthy from…
S1E4 Improving Agent Reliability with Reinforcement Learning with Deniz Birlikci
A system that succeeds once is a demo. A system that succeeds every time is a breakthrough. Dr. Danielle Perszyk sits down with AI researcher Deniz Birlikci from Amazon's AGI Lab to explore how…
S1E3 Giving Agents the Ability to See with Matthew Elkherj
Before an AI agent can reason or plan, it has to see. Dr. Danielle Perszyk and AI researcher Matthew Elkherj explore why user interface (UI) understanding is one of the most underestimated challenges…
S1E2 Building Reinforcement Learning (RL) Gyms to Shape Agent Learning with Jason Laster
How do you build environments complex enough to train agents that can handle the real web? Dr. Danielle Perszyk sits down with Jason Laster, an engineer leading Amazon's AGI Lab's effort to…
S1E1 A History of Modern Agents with Kelsey Szot
How did we get from language models to AI agents that can take action? Dr. Danielle Perszyk sits down with Kelsey Szot, product lead at Amazon's AGI Lab and one of the original founders of Adept (a…
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