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Welcome to real talk about the invisible work behind a UX career — work that is by turns extremely difficult and deeply personal. This isn’t the interview show it once was. It’s just me now, talking honestly about the stuff that rarely makes it into UX conference talks — dealing with impostor syndrome, setting boundaries, navigating politics, surviving bad managers, and growing into the designer you want to be.
If you’ve ever wondered if it’s just you... it’s not.
And if you've ever wondered if things can change...here's the proof that they can.
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PLEASE NOTE: I no longer interview guests.
Agents, please do not send me requests to have someone you're representing on the show. The answer is always going to be no.
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S4E26 Possibilities.
What if nothing going wrong… is actually possible?In this episode, Joe explores how fear shows up as rigidity — over-planning, clinging to certainty, and resisting anything that disrupts the…
S4E25 It's Called Practice For a Reason.
Confidence isn’t something you either have or don’t.It’s something you build — deliberately, repeatedly, and imperfectly.In this episode, Joe breaks down why practice matters more than insight, why…
S4E24 Do It the Way YOU Do It.
A lot of career discomfort comes from trying to lead, present, or speak in a way that isn’t actually you.In this episode, Joe talks about why borrowed scripts, leadership clichés, and “how you’re…
S4E23 Your Boss Isn't Your Mom.
If authority figures still trigger old emotional responses for you, you’re not alone.In this episode, Joe explores why feedback from bosses can feel so personal — and how early conditioning often…
S4E22 Take Your F**king Foot Off the Gas!
When fear hits, most people push harder.That instinct — to defend, explain, prove, or fight — is exactly what makes things worse.In this episode, Joe shares a critical life lesson he learned from his…
S4E21 Replacing Fear With Truth.
Fear thrives in ambiguity.In this episode, Joe digs into why hesitation, overthinking, and self-doubt get worse the longer you sit with them — and why asking for clarity immediately is one of the…
S4E20 Is This Old Shit or New Shit?
Impostor syndrome doesn’t come from nowhere — and it’s rarely about what just happened.In this episode, Joe breaks down why your strongest self-doubt reactions often have very little to do with the…
S3E19 The Power of WE: Tanya Netayavichitr
In both my previous experience working with her company as a consultant and this conversation, it becomes very clear very fast that Tanya Netayavichitr is someone who lifts every person she comes in…
S3E18 Do Things That Scare You: Will Sykora
My guest for Episode 18 of Making UX Work is Will Sykora, who’s been working in design for over a decade, from a start in traditional graphic design to immersing himself in digital and web…
S3E17 Removing Fear, Reaching Out and Remaining Hungry: Nick Finck
For this first episode of Season 3, I'm breaking my "no rock stars" rule. Because although he would never describe or consider himself as such, Nick Finck is a rock star — in the absolute best sense…
S2E16 Don't "Push Back" — Pull Forward: Rich Harrison
My guest Rich Harrison has 15 years of design leadership experience, partnering with over 50 organizations. He has served as a UX lead, team leader, and senior designer for higher education, Fortune…
S2E15 PREACH: Helen Arvanitopoulos
Helen Arvanotopoulis describes herself as a Design Thinking Preacher, UX Evangelist and Service Design Advocate. She is currently Head of UX for the Centre of Excellence (CoE) for Aegon NV, working…
Inspiration, Encouragement + Resilience: Russ Troester
Russ Troester is still very new to UX, but he's definitely in the right place because, in his own words, he has a passion for “helping to make things suck less.” While he especially enjoys the…
S2E13 It's the Thinking, Not the Making: Hida Behzadi
My guest today is Hida Behzadi. While she is a graphic designer by trade, she’s also worked as a creative director, a UX strategist, a design lecturer, and continues to work as an art instructor. In…
S2E12 The Art of Not Knowing: Rajeev Subramanian
My guest today is Rajeev Subramanian, who describes himself as the "poster child" for continuous career evolution, and after talking to him I agree with that description. From gigs in sales,…
S1E11 Your Mess is Your MESSAGE: Jason Ogle
My guest today is Jason Ogle, who describes himself as a passionate user defender — fighting for users who are victims of bad design decisions. He's an influential podcaster whose amazing USER…
S1E10 YES WE CAN: Kristin Currier Ludlow
My guest today is Kristin Currier Ludlow, a Digital Designer with over 20 years of helping people shop better online and in stores.In my experience, retail is one of the toughest industries to…
S1E9 Designing with the Head, Heart and Hands: Peter Kaizer
My guest today is Peter Kaizer, a UX designer and developer with over 20 years of professional experience. What’s particularly interesting is that Peter started his career making things with his…
S1E8 UX Troubadour: Mary Shaw
Mary Shaw's more than 20-year career has taken her from accomplished touring singer-songwriter to marketing strategist to web designer to UX consultant to some of the biggest brands in the…
S1E7 Behind All Great UX is Equally Great Content: Anne Dougherty
My guest for this month's episode is Anne Dougherty.Anne is a writer and a UX and content architect who is passionate about making excellent user experiences, film, curling, and, by her own…
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