MeaningMaker Podcast
Jana and Charlene
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S2E5 S2/E5 Sunday School
We prepare to return to the small town we left in 2020 to speak at a church exploring same sex marriage and what it means to be an affirming congregation - openly welcoming and supportive of 2SLGBTQ+…
S2E4 S2/E4 Your Life Is A Creative Act
If it's true that creative ideas come to us because they're begging to be brought into the world, then maybe it's also true that our lives - and the ideas and dreams we have about them and the next…
S2/E3 The Price of Shame
In a continuation of the failure discussion from S2/E2, we talk about shame - which touches all of our lives at some point. It's about what happens when shame is deeply internalized and allowed to…
S2E2 S2/E2 The Road Out
In an unexpected episode - recorded just after Episode 1 of Season 2 - we turned the mics back on to capture a conversation about what we weren't planning to talk about. Two divorce stories playing…
S2E1 S2/E1 Beginning Again
More and more, we’re each learning that the podcast has been a journey to owning for ourselves both the hard and beautiful aspects of our story. One year after taking a one-year break from…
S1E3 S1/E3 One Foot in Front of the Other
As mothers and wives with young families, we knew there would be no right time and no right way to open the closet door. Listen as we talk about some of the things that inspired courage in us, that…
S1E23 S1/E23 Graduation
Over these 23 episodes, we’ve chronicled our coming out story — and our life in the decade after that. We’ve honoured and loved and struggled to make meaning of all that came before — and so much of…
S1E22 S1/E22 The Meaning of Meaning
The past is gone but, so often, it defines the present. After reliving this many-faceted coming out story over more than 20 episodes, we talk about why it’s been important to make meaning of what…
S1E21 S1/E21 Who Sees You?
We’ve all felt like outsiders at one time or another. In those times, we don’t feel seen or witnessed in some way. Because of who we believe we are, what we dream about, what we do or do not believe…
S1E20 S1/E20 The Break
We’re back at it after a month-long break to talk about the future of the podcast, vulnerability hangovers, making mistakes on the air, what reliving this story for you through these episodes has…
S1/E19 Comfortable Lies
The stories we create in order to justify our actions and choices become, in so many ways, who we are. They are the things we say back to ourselves to explain our complicated lives. But what if some…
S1E18 S1/E18 The Tell-All
We love to hear from listeners and, in this episode, we answer some of your most frequently asked questions. How do we know this isn’t a phase? Initially, what did you say to yourselves in order to…
S1E17 S1/E17 Marry Me Tonight in the Backyard
On a cool fall night in October, 2020, we surprised our kids and got married in the backyard of our home. The eight-year journey to that night was curved like a road through the mountains, with stops…
S1E16 S1/E16 Change Is My Love Language
As humans we’re hard-wired to see patterns. Like on a grilled cheese, in the stars, in events, or in nature. But we often miss them in ourselves. In this episode, we let you in on a self-proclaimed…
S1E15 S1/E15 Not Perfect But Real
Family is a tough subject for many people. Us, too. We’ve had a hard time talking about the concept of family – even to each other sometimes – over the last decade since we came out. With four kids…
S1E14 S1/E14 Sometimes We Fight
We switched on the mics mid-conversation to catch a discussion about an argument we'd had a few nights before. The episode isn't about the argument. It's about two people who often struggle at the…
S1E13 S1/E13 Coming Out in a Small Town - Take Three
We’d always planned to do an episode about our decision to stay living in a small town after we came out. This is not it. We scrapped two full-length episodes in favour of this one – a third attempt…
S1E12 S1/E12 The Happiness Jar
What do our first pride parade, standing shoulder to shoulder with half a million women in Washington the day after Trump's 2016 inauguration, a gay bar in Kentucky, making a wish on the moon in the…
S1E11 S1/E11 Forgiving Us
Is it possible to love the hardest things you’ve done when they’ve caused such hurt to yourself and others? What does it mean to forgive yourself? And, how do you do it? In this episode, we explore…
S1E10 S1/E10 The Courage to Choose Joy
We let ourselves out of the closet in 2012 and then, for a while, we stuffed our joy in there instead. In the beginning, the joy we shared together saved us on the hardest days, and it also remained…
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MeaningMaker Podcast has published 29 episodes since September 2021, covering topics in Relationships, Society & Culture.
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