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I’m Rob Kelly, and this is Media and the Machine, a show about the biggest technology shift of our lifetime and how to profit from it (together). Each week I talk with founders and CEOs closest to…
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Media and the Machine has published 19 episodes since January 2026, covering topics in Business, Technology.
Media and the Machine is currently highly active with new episodes weekly. Average episode length is 50m.
