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S2E19 Women Making Moves: Leadership, Resilience, and Impact
About this EpisodeIn this Women’s History Month special episode of Next Man Up, Kareem Thomas is joined by Dr. Nadia Bennett and Natalie St. Louis for a powerful conversation on authenticity,…
S2E18 The AP Life: What they don’t tell you, Pt. 1
About this EpisodeKareem Thomas, host of Next Man Up, The MCEL Podcast, sits down with Dr. Rodney Harrison and Barry Wilkins to explore the real life of assistant principals. This conversation dives…
Developing The Next Leader
About this EpisodeIn this episode of Next Man Up, host Kareem Thomas speaks with guests Ray Pace and Dr. Wardell Hunter about the critical importance of leadership development programs for aspiring…
S2E16 Building Bridges: The Role of the Care Team
About this EpisodeIn this episode of Next Man Up, host Kareem Thomas discusses the importance of social-emotional learning (SEL) in education with guests Errin Smith, Dr. Arman Lakes, and Dr. Chuck…
S2E15 Navigating Leadership Transitions
Summary:In this episode of Next Man Up, host Kareem Thomas engages with Dr. Aaron Dukes and Mr. Brandon Johnson, two leaders who transitioned from school principal roles to central office positions.…
S2E14 Courage, Identity, & Inclusion in Leadership
Summary:In this episode of Next Man Up, host Kareem Thomas sits down with Mario Jovan and Vincent Rawlings for a powerful and deeply reflective conversation about what it means to support LGBTQ+…
S2E13 Leading Beyond the Space
Summary:In this episode of Next Man Up, host Kareem Thomas engages with Dr. Jacob Waites and Joseph Speight to discuss the significance of affinity spaces in education, particularly for educators who…
S2E12 Transform Without Burnout
Summary:In this episode of Next Man Up, host Kareem Thomas engages with educational leaders Justin Sinclair and Dr. Harold McCray to discuss the challenges and strategies of school transformation,…
S2E11 Cultivating Excellence in Leadership: The MCEL Pathway
Summary: In the season two premiere of Next Man Up, host Kareem Thomas welcomes Harrison Peters, co-founder and CEO of MCEL, to discuss the current state of the organization and its initiatives. They…
S1E10 Navigating the Challenges in Education
Episode SummaryIn this episode of Next Man Up, host Kareem Thomas speaks with Dr. Paul Cruz, a seasoned educator and former superintendent, about his journey in education, the challenges men of color…
Leadership Impact in Philadelphia Schools
Summary:In this episode of Next Man Up, host Kareem Thomas engages with three Philadelphia educators—Will Lawrence, Will Brown, and Vance McNear—to discuss their journeys in educational leadership,…
S1E9 Leadership Beyond the Title
In this dynamic episode of Next Man Up, host Kareem Thomas sits down with two influential superintendents, Dr. Donald Fennoy and Dr. Howard Hepburn, for a powerful and deeply personal conversation…
S1E1 Finding Brotherhood in Leadership
In this powerful episode of Next Man Up, host Kareem Thomas sits down with Dr. Courtney Curtis, Dr. Javan Childs, and Gene Renoir for an honest and deeply insightful conversation about what it means…
S1E6 Guided to Greatness: The Making of a Leader
SummaryIn this episode of Next Man Up, host Kareem Thomas sits down with Dr. Dwayne Chism and Dr. Jayson Strickland for a powerful conversation on how mentorship and coaching have shaped their…
S1E5 Two Unstoppable Women in Educational Leadership
SummaryIn this special episode of Next Man Up, host Kareem Thomas sits down with two groundbreaking superintendents, Misty Herr and Theresa Plasencia, to explore their leadership journeys in…
S1E4 From Beats to the Classroom with Ike Ramos
In this episode of Next Man Up, host Kareem Thomas sits down with Ike Ramos, a former educator turned EdTech leader, to discuss his dynamic journey from hip-hop artist to school principal to a…
S1E3 Dr. Erick Pruitt’s Blueprint for Educational Excellence
In this powerful episode of Next Man Up, Kareem Thomas sits down with Dr. Erick Pruitt to discuss his incredible journey from serving in the Marine Corps to leading as the Superintendent of Schools…
S1E2 MCEL: How the Journey Began, Pt. 2
Summary In this continuation of Next Man Up, host Kareem Thomas reconnects with MCEL co-founders Harrison Peters and Steve Gering for Part 2 of their powerful discussion on mentorship and leadership…
S1E1 MCEL: How the Journey Began, Pt. 1
In this inaugural episode of Next Man Up, host Kareem Thomas dives into an inspiring conversation with Harrison Peters and Steve Gehring, co-founders of the Men of Color Educational Leadership…
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