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Real Money, Real Experts is a personal finance podcast written and produced by AFCPE®. With an audience of financial professionals, we strive to educate and entertain with a combination of expert tips, engaging interviews, and real-life storytelling.
AFCPE® ensures the highest integrity of the financial counseling profession by certifying, connecting, and supporting diverse professionals. Our comprehensive program, the AFC® (Accredited Financial Counselor®), represent the gold standard of financial counseling certifications. And our membership community offers a place to share best practices, solve similar struggles, and access tools and resources that advance your career and enable you to better serve your clients.
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S6E144 Fixing More Than the Numbers: Counseling Strategies When Budgets Don't Do the Trick with Jayne Larson and Alicia Lawrence
In this episode of Real Money, Real Experts, Dr. Brandy Baxter sits down with financial counselors Alicia Lawrence and Jayne Larson to explore why real financial change goes beyond the numbers.They…
S6E143 Rewired: 7 Steps to Help Clients Transform Their Relationship with Money with Ryan Law AFC®, CFP®
In this episode of Real Money, Real Experts, we welcome back fan favorite Ryan Law, award-winning educator, author, and financial counselor, to share something a little different: his groundbreaking…
S6E142 Yours, Mine, and Ours: Navigating Money in Blended Families with Mikel Van Cleve, MBA, CFP®, FBS®, CEBS
Money conversations are emotional for any family—but in blended families, they often come with added layers of loss, loyalty, and complexity.In this episode of Real Money, Real Experts, Dr. Brandy…
S6E141 Will AI Take My Job? with Dr. Jessica Limbrick
Is artificial intelligence here to help financial professionals—or replace them?In this special episode of Real Money, Real Experts, hosts Dr. Brandy Baxter and Rachael DeLeon kick off the new season…
S6E140 Two Cents Round-up of 2025: Lessons in Wealth, Trust, and Financial Growth
2025 was full of insightful conversations, and in this special episode, Rachael DeLeon and Dr. Brandy Baxter revisit some of the most impactful moments from the year. From defining true wealth to…
S6E139 Where Finance Meets Humanity: Ann Lentell on Coaching, Community & Change
Join us for an inspiring conversation with Ann Lentell, CFA, AFC®️, CFP®️ — a financial professional whose career bridges equity research, nonprofit leadership, and deeply human financial…
S6E138 We Were Made for This Moment: Real Stories, Real Impact
Join hosts Rachael DeLeon and Dr. Brandy Baxter live from the AFCPE Symposium for a special episode capturing the energy, insights, and inspiration of this year’s event.In this unique format, you’ll…
S6E137 Healing Your Money Parts with Saundra Davis
In this episode of Real Money, Real Experts, hosts Rachael DeLeon and Dr. Brandy Baxter sit down with the iconic Saundra Davis — master certified coach, financial well-being expert, and founder of…
S6E136 Money Talks: How to Heal Your Financial Story with Erika Wasserman
In this episode of Real Money, Real Experts, hosts Rachael DeLeon and Dr. Brandy Baxter sit down with Erika Wasserman, Certified Financial Therapist and author of Conversations with Your Financial…
S6E135 The State of Financial Health in America with Lisa Berdie and Gary Mottola
What does financial health really look like in America today — and how can we help households thrive in an increasingly complex financial world? In this episode of Real Money, Real Experts, hosts…
S6E134 Human Connection in a Disconnected World with Riaz Meghji
What do financial counseling, professional wrestling, and Hugh Jackman all have in common? Human connection. In this episode of Real Money, Real Experts, we sit down with international keynote…
S6E133 From Trauma to Healing: Redefining Money Stories with Rahkim Sabree, AFC®
In this episode of Real Money, Real Experts, hosts Rachael DeLeon and Dr. Brandy Baxter sit down with financial therapist, author, and AFC®, Rahkim Sabree, to explore the complex and deeply human…
S6E132 Preparing to Pivot: Career Lessons with Jacquie Carroll, AFC®
On this episode of Real Money, Real Experts, Rachael DeLeon and Dr. Brandy Baxter sit down with Dr. Jacquie Carroll—educator, researcher, speaker, and Accredited Financial Counselor®—to talk about…
S6E131 Counseling Families Through College Costs with Michelle Smoley, AFC®
In this episode of Real Money, Real Experts, we sit down with Michelle Smoley, AFC®, a seasoned financial counselor with over two decades of experience guiding families through the higher education…
S6E130 Money with Meaning: Aligning Faith, Values, and Financial Fulfillment with Weslia Echols and Willa Williams
In this inspiring episode, Rachael and Brandy sit down with Weslia Echols and Willa Williams—better known as your favorite financial aunties. As co-founders of Trinity Financial Coaching and co-hosts…
S6E129 Breaking It Down: Turning Financial Complexity into Clarity with Derek Brainard
In this episode of Real Money, Real Experts, we’re joined by Derek Brainard, Director of Financial Education at AccessLex Institute, who shares how his background as a Navy trumpet player shaped his…
S6E128 Learning Beyond the Lecture: Teaching Real-Life Financial Lessons with Dr. Jessica Limbrick, AFC®️
In this episode of Real Money, Real Experts, we sit down with Dr. Jessica Limbrick, an Accredited Financial Counselor®, researcher, and Assistant Professor at Nevada State University — and yes, she’s…
S6E127 Whole Self, Whole Wealth: The Power of Holistic Financial Wellness with Dr. Brandon Shurn, AFC®️
In this episode of Real Money, Real Experts, we’re joined by Dr. Brandon Shurn, AFC®️—a mental health counselor, counselor educator, accredited financial counselor, and certified personal trainer—who…
S6E126 The Human Side of Wealth: Training the Next Gen of Planners with Hannah Moore, CFP®️
What if we trained financial planners by starting with the client — not the textbook?Hannah Moore, CFP®️, has spent her entire career asking that question and building a better answer. As the founder…
S6E125 Generation Preservation: What We Leave Behind with Glen Cone, AFC®
In this episode, we’re joined by Glen Cone, AFC®, a seasoned financial counselor with more than 15 years of experience serving individuals in estate and end-of-life planning. Glen shares insights…
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