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S2E1 Ep. 1: Strange Things Are Happening
A new breed of worker is quietly clocking in across the United States. They’re writing code. Managing your passwords. Training the next generation of AI models. They’re gaining trust. And access. On…
S2 Coming soon - An “inside-out” look at North Korea’s covert IT workforce
To Catch a Thief: North Korea On Our Payroll is a gripping investigative podcast exposing how thousands of North Korean operatives are quietly getting hired inside American companies, funneling…
S1E10 OUT OF BAND | The Breaking Point: Inside Mythos' Zero-Day Machine with Anthropic's Nicholas Carlini
Nicole Perlroth sits down with Nicholas Carlini for an Out of Band conversation on the imminent zero-day surge. Carlini explains what Mythos can already do: find and exploit flaws in some of the…
S1E9 Ep 9: The New Frontline
Colonial Pipeline was a warning shot. Now, Chinese hackers are inside the digital guts of hundreds of Colonial equivalents across the U.S.—power, water, transportation, and more. The question isn’t…
S1E8 Ep 8: Living Off The Land
Cyber experts start getting called into electric, water, pipeline, railway, and transportation hubs around the country. Hackers have found a clever way to embed in these systems, using a small,…
S1E7 Ep 7: Everything Everywhere All At Once
The General Manager of an electric and water utility in Littleton, Mass. gets a surprise call from the FBI. At first he suspects the caller is a spammer, but soon he learns the agent is very real.…
S1E6 Ep 6: The Gunslingers
During China’s pseudo-cyber-hiatus, the PRC’s hacking operations get a major overhaul. CCP leadership moves responsibility away from the sloppy, brazen hackers at the People’s Liberation Army to the…
S1E5 Ep 5: A Cyber Detente
Every U.S. administration, dating back to President H.W. Bush has struggled to address the threat of Chinese trade theft. But a growing sense of urgency kicks in as American businesses start…
S1E4 Ep 4: Naming and Shaming
As Chinese hackers continue their raid of American companies, the threat reaches new levels of urgency, not so much for the sophistication of these hackers, but because of the sheer volume of…
S1 BONUS: Live Panel with Top China & Cyber Experts at The New York Stock Exchange
For this special live recording of To Catch a Thief at The New York Stock Exchange, host and former lead cybersecurity and digital espionage reporter for The New York Times, Nicole Perlroth sits down…
S1E3 Ep 3: The Most Dangerous Time in American History
In Episode 3, host and former lead cybersecurity and digital espionage reporter for The New York Times, Nicole Perlroth visits a welding shop in rural Wisconsin where Chinese hackers have set up shop…
S1E2 Ep 2: Then They Came for Us
Google discloses its hack and points the finger squarely at Beijing, which spells the end for Google’s business ambitions in China. Other victims stay silent, too fearful to offend the gatekeepers to…
S1E1 Ep 1: The Five Poisons
Former NSA Director Keith Alexander called it “the greatest transfer of wealth in history.” Hillary Clinton, FBI Director James Comey and President Barack Obama also sounded the alarm on the biggest…
S1 Coming Soon - To Catch a Thief: China’s Rise to Cyber Supremacy
American companies, whole towns, have been eviscerated by Chinese cyberattacks. But their stories remain untold, even as the stakes get higher and the targets more reckless.To Catch a Thief is a…
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To Catch a Thief: North Korea On Our Payroll has published 14 episodes since March 2025, covering topics in Documentary, History.
To Catch a Thief: North Korea On Our Payroll is currently highly active with new episodes every 2 weeks. Average episode length is 46m.
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