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S2025E3 Long Conversation: OT and IT - Convergence, Integration, and Separation?

Few topics get as much heat as the current, future, and ideal relationship between OT and IT. One of the first posts someone just discovering OT makes is how OT is different than IT. As you dig…

S2025E2 Unsolicited Response with Maggie Morganti

Dale Peterson discusses with Maggie how she got into OT security, her recent move to the Financial Sector, women in ICS security, and more.

S2025E1 S4x25 Feedback & Review

If you're not interested in S4, skip this episode. Dale goes over the feedback from the survey and S4 Event's own thoughts on the event, Tampa, and more.

S2024E10 Joel Langill On His New OT Security Training Class And More

Dale Peterson speaks with Joel Langill, the SCADAHacker, about his new training course entitled Conducting Threat, Vulnerability, and Risk Assessments For ICS. A two day version of this course will…

S2024E9 S4x24 Main Stage Interview With Stewart Baker

Stewart Baker is one of the preeminent lawyers on topics of cyber law with an impressive career in and out of government. Stewart also hosts the Cyberlaw podcast. The Biden administration is…

S2024E8 S4x24 Main Stage Interview With Rob Lee

Dale Peterson interviews Rob Lee on the S4 Main Stage. They cover a lot of ground and Rob is never shy about sharing his opinions and analysis. They discuss: Rob's first S4 PIPEDREAM deployed v.…

S2024E7 Chris Hughes, Author of Effective Vulnerability Management

Chris Hughes and Nikki Robinson recently wrote the book Effective Vulnerability Management. Dale and Chris discuss the topic and book including: The definition and scope of vulnerabilities. It's…

S2024E6 2024 Threat Report – OT Cyber Attacks with Physical Consequences

Waterfall Security Solutions and ICSSTRIVE put out an annual threat report that Dale Peterson believes is the best in OT. Why? It only includes incidents that had physical consequences on systems…

S2024E5 State Of NERC CIP, European Update and OT Security Community

Patrick Miller has OT cybersecurity experience as an asset owner, PacificCorp. As a regulator and one of the first NERC CIP auditors with WECC. As a community organizer creating and leading EnergySec…

S2024E4 Book Interview: Introduction To SBOM And VEX

S2024E3 S4x24 Closing Panel

S2024E2 Q1: ICS Security In Review

Emma Stewart joins Dale to discuss the 3 big OT & ICS security stories from the first quarter. They end by giving their win, fail and prediction for Q1.

S24E1 S4x24 Preview

S2023E39 Predictions Analyzed

In this solosode episode Dale reviews the status of his three predictions from the Q1, 2 and 3 quarter in review episodes and answers a listener question.

S2023E38 Q4 ICS Security Quarter In Review

S2023E37 CISA Attack Surface Scanning Service

Dale is joined by Steve Pozza, CISA Section Chief of Operational Resilience, and Tom Millar, CISA Branch Chief of Resilience, to discuss some of CISA's security services for asset owners. They…

S2023E36 Engineering-Grade OT Security with Andrew Ginter

Andrew Ginter published his third book this year: Engineering-Grade OT Security. Dale interviews Andrew on the book including: Who was the target reader that Andrew wrote the book for? Do (should)…

S2023E35 Asset Inventory, Lawyers, and AI

This week is a Dale Peterson solosode. Updates and Announcements Dale provides updates about S4x24 ticket sales and announces the Women In ICS Security program and sponsor package. Main Topics Asset…

S2023E34 Is The Purdue Model Dead (E)

S2023E33 Kelly Shortridge - Security Chaos Engineering in ICS

Kelly joins Dale to discuss her new book Security Chaos Engineering: Sustaining Resilience in Software and Systems. Kelly points out the second part of the title is the most descriptive, and she is…