Beneath the Transaction
Chris & Kenzie Pineda
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About This Podcast
We live in a world shaped by transactions—performance, productivity, outcomes, expectations. But beneath every transaction is something deeper being formed: identity, culture, relationship, and purpose.
Beneath the Transaction is a podcast about tending to that deeper work.
Hosted by Chris Pineda and his wife and co-founder of Groundwork, Kenzie Pineda, this podcast is an extension of the book Beneath the Transaction and a living invitation to lead—and live—more intentionally.
Together, Chris and Kenzie explore what it means to build lives, families, organizations, and communities rooted in purpose rather than performance alone. Drawing from modern leadership, organizational psychology, and indigenous wisdom, each episode invites listeners to slow down and reflect on what’s being shaped beneath the surface of their work and relationships.
Episodes intentionally alternate between two rhythms:
Life and Leadership.
Some conversations lean into leadership—organizational culture, trust, accountability, and purpose at work. Others lean into life—marriage, family, faith, community, identity, and the quiet formation happening at home. Because the way we lead professionally cannot be separated from the way we live personally.
Guests include not only organizational leaders, but leaders of families, communities, faith spaces, and movements—people shaping culture in ways that rarely make headlines, but deeply matter.
This podcast is about building a Tribe.
A Tribe committed to reflection.
A Tribe willing to have the hard conversations.
A Tribe choosing relationship over transaction.
If you’re longing for leadership that feels human, a life that feels whole, and a community that reminds you that transformation is never a solo act—you’re in the right place.
It takes a Tribe.
And transformation begins beneath the transaction.
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Recent Episodes
S2E10 When Profit Replaces Purpose
When profit becomes the focus, something deeper starts to break. In this episode of Beneath the Transaction, I sit down with Brian Belliveau, Chief Growth Officer at Columbia Southern University, to…
S2E9 What Does Tattooing Have to do With Purpose?
What does tattooing have to do with purpose? More than we think. In a lot of indigenous cultures, tattoos weren’t just something you chose—they reflected how you lived. Your identity. Your story.…
S2E8 Ancient Wisdom for Modern Leadership | What indigenous culture can teach us today
In this episode of Beneath the Transaction, Chris sits down with Arthur Soriano, a researcher exploring the Philippine and Austronesian past, present, and future. Together, they explore what modern…
S2E7 From Transactional Giving to Purposeful Living
In this episode of Beneath the Transaction, Chris sits down with Ben Fielder, Vice President at NCF Michigan, to explore how giving can move from transactional to transformational. Ben has spent his…
S2E6 Moving Beneath the Transaction in Philanthropy
In this episode of Beneath the Transaction, Chris sits down with Vanessa Plant, Executive Director of the Alku Foundation and an experienced leader in Boston’s nonprofit and philanthropic…
S2E5 Purpose Is the Mortar of Transformation
In this episode of Beneath the Transaction, Chris and Kenzie explore the role purpose plays in real transformation—both in our leadership and in our lives. Too often we focus on achievement and…
S2E4 The Leadership Work of Creating Psychological Safety
In this episode of Beneath the Transaction, Chris sits down with Olivia Hickerson, founder of EmpowerTactics, to explore the often unseen work of creating psychologically safe organizations. Olivia…
Transformation is Caught, not Taught
In this episode of Beneath the Transaction, we sit down with Kate Westerman, Senior Director of Operations Learning & Development at UNFI, to explore what truly shapes growth inside…
S2E3 Go Relational First: Building Trust Beneath the Transaction
Welcome back to Beneath the Transaction. This week we’re joined by Sean MacMillan, VP of HR for Captain D’s and a leader deeply rooted in applied organizational and behavioral science. Sean has spent…
S2E2 Have the Conversation Anyway: Trust, Vulnerability & Culture Change
Welcome back to Beneath the Transaction. This week we sit down with Alix Prassas — an organizational effectiveness leader with more than two decades of experience in People & Culture, global…
S2E1 Beneath The Transaction: A New Beginning
Welcome to Beneath the Transaction. This episode marks a new beginning—not just for the podcast, but for how we want to show up in these conversations moving forward. We start by naming something…
From Crisis to Connection: The Power of Relationships in Education with Ryan Marshall
Thank you for listening to The Rooted Leadership Podcast! Today, we are honored to have Ryan Marshall with us, an experienced school counselor and dedicated advocate for student well-being. With a…
The Transformative Power of Philanthropy
In this conversation, Chris and Jason discuss the importance of philanthropy and the impact it can have on individuals and communities. Jason shares personal stories of how he was influenced by his…
The Power of a Common Language in Conflict
Thanks for watching! Please help us share our message by sharing this episode with a friend. Exciting News! Our TEDx Talk on Transformational Leadership Drops This Month – Stay Tuned! The Rooted…
Unlocking Cultural Differences: The Secret to Flourishing Communities
Join us for a captivating episode featuring Chad Ford, esteemed global mediator and bestselling author of "Dangerous Love." With unparalleled experience in resolving conflicts across the globe. We…
Ron Artis II Forged His Own Path in the Music Industry
Join us on a captivating exploration of Groundwork Leadership with the incredibly talented Ron Artis II. In this inspiring episode, we delve into the unique and extraordinary journey of this rising…
Unveiling Authentic Leadership: A Journey of Vision-Driven Growth
Join us for an inspiring episode featuring Brian Moore and Justin Allen as they share their journey towards authentic leadership and their commitment to vision-driven growth within their company.…
Dream First, Details Later: How to Overcome Fear and Take Action Towards Your Dreams
Ellen Bennett sits down and chats with Chris Pineda about what it means to be an entrepreneur, inspirational leader, and follow your dreams. Ellen's exciting energy is exactly what you need to start…
Followership and Team Leadership
Tamra Goettsch; Director of Marion County Community Services Department, Rhonda Rhodes; CTEC Principal in the Salem Keizer School District, and Anthony Mitchell; Director of Solera Holdings, join…
Groundwork’s Transformational Retreat
Evann Remington; CEO of Fresh n' Local Foods; Anthony Mitchell; Director of Solera Holdings, and Kanoe Barth; Assistant Director of Center 50+, join Chris Pineda on the Rooted Leadership podcast.…
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Beneath the Transaction has published 89 episodes since July 2020, covering topics in Business, Kids & Family.
Beneath the Transaction is currently highly active with new episodes weekly. Average episode length is 1h 1m.
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