Episodes 102
Avg. Duration 54m
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Apple Rating 5.0 (49)
Since Aug 2017
Latest Episode Jun 2026

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The podcast listened to by sophisticated in-house counsel, judges from around the world, IP policymakers, senior USPTO officials, and top patent dealmakers and attorneys to stay ahead of the curve by understanding the personalities and forces shaping IP. Eli Mazour’s love of talking to people – along with his belief in the importance of America’s patent system – led him to start Clause 8. Clause 8 features conversations that provide strategic insights about how to best deal with various patent-related issues. Some of the previous guests include America’s great innovators, federal judges, USPTO Directors, top IP staffers on Capitol Hill, and Carole Baskin’s attorney from the documentary Tiger King. It's the #1 podcast about IP and is in the top 2.5% of all podcasts according to Listen Score. The podcast has been covered and cited in many publications, including Bloomberg, Law360, Courthouse News Service, Above the Law, IAM, and Original Jurisdiction.

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Via Eyes "De Facto" Standards for Future Pools

Jun 02, 2026 50m

Kevin Mack, the new president of Via Licensing Alliance, joins Eli for the Clause 8 season finale.Kevin talks about Via's plans to build its next patent pools around "de facto" standards — technology…

AI Boom Calls for New Copyright Law, Says USPTO Chief Behind the DMCA

May 19, 2026 1h 15m

Bruce Lehman, head of USPTO from 1993 to 1998, joins Clause 8 for a wide-ranging conversation about the modern IP system, the internet boom, and why the AI era may require a new copyright response…

The AI Patent Team Alice Built Shares Its Prosecution Secrets

May 05, 2026 46m

When Alice came down in 2014, much of the patent prosecution bar reacted with denial. Most practitioners hoped the USPTO, the Federal Circuit, or Congress would clean things up — and that adding some…

Inventor Gilbert Hyatt's gift to America — will America accept it?

Apr 21, 2026 19m

President Trump and Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick pride themselves on being dealmakers and on making the kind of unconventional deals for America no one else could have gotten done. Gil Hyatt is…

The Hidden Costs of “Free” Patent Licensing Initiatives

Apr 07, 2026 56m

Is anything in the patent world ever really free?That question anchors a new Clause 8 conversation between host Eli Mazour and Professor Kristen Osenga, a University of Richmond law professor and one…

USPTO Director John Squires' 'Foxhole Buddy' Tells All, Previews Message at Upcoming House Hearing

Mar 22, 2026 1h 8m

The story of how John Squires became USPTO Director doesn’t start inside the Beltway. It starts on the Appalachian Trail, with Doug Pittman camping under shooting stars the night after Trump won the…

The USPTO Is Changing Course. The Early Examination Data Tells a More Complicated Story.

Mar 10, 2026 50m

Eli Mazour is joined by Juristat’s Francesca Cruz and patent attorney Clint Mehall to look at what the examination data actually says about recent USPTO changes. The conversation moves past anecdotes…

From DABUS to ChatGPT and Beyond: How AI Is Reshaping Patent Law

Feb 24, 2026 52m

Artificial intelligence has been raising foundational questions for patent law long before generative tools entered the mainstream. In this episode of Clause 8, host Eli Mazour speaks with Wen Xie,…

How Senator Tillis’ Patent Leadership Provides Path for Cementing Recent USPTO Action

Feb 10, 2026 1h 10m

In the latest episode of Clause 8, recorded in December 2025, Eli Mazour sits down with Peter-Anthony Pappas, Director of Intellectual Property Policy for the U.S. Senate Committee on the Judiciary…

Head of IP’s Playbook for the AI Infrastructure Boom

Jan 27, 2026 26m

How do you protect the IP of a rapidly growing technology company in the dynamic AI sector without slowing engineers or missing what really matters?That question is at the center of this episode of…

HP’s Chief IP Counsel on the Advice that Propelled Her Success

Jan 13, 2026 1h 20m

While many people talk about mentorship, HP’s Chief IP Counsel Ceyda Maisami and Tradespace’s VP of IP Operations & Client Success Marcia Chang actually live it.In this episode, Ceyda and Marcia…

Dolby’s Chief Patent Counsel & Head of Audio Patents on Building Valuable Patent Portfolios in Uncertain Times

Dec 30, 2025 17m

At the 2025 Via Licensing Alliance Bridge Summit in San Francisco, Brian Dorini, Senior Director at Dolby, and Tyrome Brown, Dolby’s Chief Patent Counsel, offered a clear-eyed look at the state of…

USPTO’s “One-and-Done” PTAB Approach and its Impact on the Patent Policy Debate

Dec 16, 2025 1h 20m

Recent changes at USPTO are increasingly shaping the context in which Congress considers potential patent legislation.In the latest episode of Clause 8, the focus turns to how the USPTO’s evolving…

Novartis’ Global Head of IP Affairs on How Patent Eligibility Mess Threatens Life-Saving Innovation & Why He Remains Optimistic

Dec 02, 2025 1h 10m

Corey Salsberg, one of the leading voices on intellectual property policy in the United States, joins Clause 8 to discuss surviving the anti-pharma activism of the last administration, why he’s…

Pioneers of the Modern Patent Pool Era at Via's Bridge Summit 2025

Nov 21, 2025 38m

At the Via Licensing Alliance’s Bridge Summit 2025 in San Francisco, Clause 8 host Eli Mazour sat down with two leaders who ushered in the modern age of patent pools: Garrard Beeney, founder of…

Exclusive Interview: USPTO Deputy Commissioner Explains Changes to Examiner Performance Plan

Nov 04, 2025 1h 7m

In this episode of Clause 8, Deputy Commissioner for Patents Jerry Lorengo joins host Eli Mazour to share valuable, practical insights for patent professionals navigating the USPTO’s new Performance…

“The Inventress” Lisa Ascolese on the Realities of Being an Inventor: You Can’t Skip the Work

Oct 21, 2025 43m

When I first heard about Lisa Ascolese, known as “The Inventress,” I knew I wanted to bring her story to Clause 8.Lisa’s path into inventing began after her family moved to Brooklyn, New York, where…

Secrets to Successfully Licensing in Asia from Via LA's Chief Licensing Officer & HDMI LA's President

Oct 07, 2025 39m

At the Via LA 2025 Bridge Summit in San Francisco, Clause 8 host Eli Mazour sat down with two leaders who play pivotal roles in connecting innovators and licensees around the world:* Jane Bu, Chief…

Ex–USPTO Deputy Laura Peter on How America Benefits from University Research and Proposals to Seize IP

Sep 23, 2025 1h

Tech transfer has long been a critical but often overlooked part of the intellectual property system. For decades, the Bayh-Dole Act has guided how federally funded research moves from university…

Why Creativity Needs Ownership: James Edwards on the Biblical Roots of IP & the Future of Patents

Sep 09, 2025 57m

In To Invent Is Divine: Creativity and Ownership, Jim makes the case that creativity and ownership are inseparable—and that weakening intellectual property rights threatens the flourishing that…

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