Down the Rabbit Hole
Bri + Sam
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Episode 19: Following the Creative Thread: Live from Paris
We're recording live from Ledger Studio in Paris while we prepare to lead a creative retreat, reflecting on the strange and beautiful paths that creativity can pull us down when we actually listen to…
Episode 18: The Birth of Body Is the Blueprint
We're introducing Body Is the Blueprint, our new embodiment institute born from years of navigating the art world, questioning stability, and redefining what it means to build a sustainable creative…
S1E17 Episode 17: The Fear Economy and the Systems That Keep Us Small
This episode explores how fear is embedded into the systems that shape our lives....and who benefits from it. Sam and Bri talk about how fear influences major life transitions, creativity,…
S1E14 Episode 16: The Aesthetic of Obedience in Beauty Standards: Clean Girl, Trad Wives & the Return of Skinny Culture
In this episode of Down the Rabbit Hole, we unpack the cultural moment we're living in—and how beauty standards are never just about beauty. From the rise of the clean girl aesthetic to the…
S1E15 Episode 15: The Healing Power of Gathering (Plus Ringworm and Swords)
In this episode of Down the Rabbit Hole, Sam and Bri spiral (naturally) from creative retreats to Parisian art history to jujitsu mats and, somehow, swords. At the heart of the conversation is their…
Episode 14: Artists: Safety, Cycles, and Self Trust
This one is for the artists. In this episode, Sam and Bri talk shop, fully and without censor, all the ebs and flows of choosing a creative life path, the highs and lows, and everything in between.…
Episode 13: Navigating Shadow, Sensitivity, and Collective Strength
In this episode, Sam and Bri unpack the collective grief and rage many women are carrying, using Renee Good's killing to name the quiet power dynamics women navigate every day. They dive into…
S1E12 Episode 12: Rejecting Collective Apathy, Considering Rage
The rabbit hole this week explores the outrage gap we feel between men and women, the power in shifting the gaze inward, the nuance of learned helplessness, and the seductive nature of political…
Episode 11: What We've Learned This Year
In this light-hearted episode, Bri and Sam discuss their issue with the New Year being too pressurized, fun memories and traditions of the New Year, and how the choose to set goals. They each give…
Episode 10: Creating Traditions, Seasonal Stillness, and Consuming Christmas
We dive into the emotional weight of nostalgia, the beginnings of holiday consumerism, and the importance of creating our own traditions as an act of self love. We share some of the grief and healing…
S1E9 Episode 9: Health Advocacy and The Pelvic Floor Part II
In this episode, Sam and Bri continue exploring a conversation with friend and Pelvic Floor Therapist Dr. Kayleigh. They talk about health class and the shame it implements at a young age, how the…
S1E8 Reclaiming Your Body: Chronic Illness, Pelvic Floor Healing, and Radical Self-Advocacy
In this episode, we're joined by our friend and pelvic floor physical therapist, Dr. Kayleigh, and we go way down the rabbit hole on chronic conditions, the body keeping the score, and what it can…
Episode 7: What the Body is Worth
This week, after a brief detour into the Hamilton obsession, Bri takes us back to her former life in the New York modeling world - and the unique relationship she developed with her body along the…
Episode 6: Navigating the Gray Areas: Male-Female Friendships, Power, and Safety
Can men and women really just be friends? In this conversation, Bri and Sam unpack the intricate dynamics of platonic relationships across gender lines. They explore the nuance of power imbalances…
Episode 5: Recovering 'Cool Girls' and Female Competition
In this episode we're diving into competition as women, life as recovering 'cool girls', toxic views of femininity that take a lot of dismantling. We also share our personal icks, the creepy masks of…
Episode 4: Life Transitions, and the Inconvenience of Friendship
Sam and Bri talk about the messiness of transition, living between homes and lives, and leaning on the help you didn't have to ask for.
Episode 3: Reclaiming the Multidimensional Self
In this episode, Sam and Bri dive into the complex topic of severing parts of the self in order to be more palatable. They share their own experiences of shrinking various sides of themselves in…
Episode 2: Art School Reject and There's Caulk on My Painting
Sam and Bri talk academic rejection, career validation, burning paintings, falling studio ceilings, and wrestling the tension between deeper work and social media.
Episode 1: Imposter Syndrome and Growing Into Your Eyeballs
Sam and Bri discuss how they met during the early phases of their careers, a van trip out west, and imposter syndrome and its many faces. Not without recalling a few unfortunate doctor visits, the…
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Down the Rabbit Hole has published 19 episodes since July 2025, covering topics in Arts, Education.
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