Lots to Unpack There
Jess and Lisa
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We’re Jess and Lisa, two best friends in our 40s living in Maryland. This podcast is about life, motherhood, leadership, and everything in between. We’re navigating the “messy middle” of personal and professional life and have learned that having someone who just gets it makes the journey less hard.
Each week, we’ll share something real from our own lives and unpack it together in real time. Our hope is that as we process and reflect, it’ll inspire and help you do the same—wherever you are.
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S2E1 AI Side Pieces And The Chore Chart
Send us Fan MailAI is everywhere right now, but the hardest part isn’t learning new tools. It’s deciding what you actually want them for, what you never want them to touch, and how to stay clear eyed…
S2 We're Back! And...Sometimes The Bravest Move Is Setting A Ceiling
Send us Fan MailA long gap between recordings can look like silence from the outside, but from the inside it often looks like errands, work fires, and a calendar with zero breathing room. We’re back…
S1E20 Reflecting on Season One
Send us Fan MailJess and Lisa reflect on Season One, exploring the themes, growth, and insights gathered through 20 episodes of genuine conversation.• Time management, bravery, parenting, confidence,…
S1E19 Lisa is a Social Crockpot
Send us Fan MailJess and Lisa explore the changing nature of social connections and unpack their contrasting approaches to building relationships.• Beginning with a discussion about the decline of…
S1 Unpack Snack: PCC Goal Achieved!
Send us Fan MailWe celebrate a major professional milestone - Jess receives the Professional Certified Coach (PCC) credential from the International Coaching Federation, representing 500 hours of…
S1E18 Music as Memory and Finding Your Happy Place
Send us Fan MailMusic creates powerful emotional connections and serves as a unique memory trigger, sometimes functioning as a sixth sense for those who experience it as a full-body phenomenon.•…
S1E17 Tears in the Zoom Room: An Epidemic of Professional Loneliness
Send us Fan MailJess and Lisa unpack the phenomenon of professional loneliness, particularly how increasing responsibility and leadership roles can lead to fewer safe spaces for vulnerability and…
S1E16 Lost Kids, Lost Tuesdays & BATNA
Send us Fan MailJess and Lisa explore the disorienting experience of losing track of time and unpack the complex interplay between confidence, uncertainty, and knowing what you truly want.• Lisa…
S1E15 The Lives We've Lived
Send us Fan MailJess and Lisa explore life's big questions about identity, personal growth, and whether our younger selves would be proud of who we've become. This thoughtful conversation weaves…
S1E14 Barrels and Buildings: The Debt that Wasn't
Send us Fan MailJess and Lisa confront the psychology behind feeling indebted to employers who provide remote work accommodations, questioning whether workplace flexibility should come with the…
S1 Unpack Snack: Beach Days and Mom Swaps
Send us Fan MailWe discuss strategies for surviving beach vacations with pale children, including the "reverse beach day" approach of going to the beach after 3pm when UV rays are less intense. We…
S1E13 What feeds your soul when nobody's watching?
Send us Fan MailHave you ever found yourself drawn to something that seems utterly unproductive yet feels essential to your wellbeing? That's exactly what we explore in this heartfelt conversation…
S1E12 The Learning and the Restless
Send us Fan MailHave you ever felt simultaneously overwhelmed with work yet creatively restless? That bizarre contradiction sits at the heart of this week's conversation as Jess unpacks her…
S1E11 Boundaries and Confidence and Goodbyes, Oh my!
Send us Fan MailJess and Lisa explore the emotional complexity of ending coaching relationships and how setting firm boundaries enables us to become the people we want to be in both personal and…
S1E10 Stepping Stones & Still Rooms: Making Peace with the Pause
Send us Fan MailJess and Lisa explore the emotional rollercoaster of major life transitions, focusing on Lisa's recent layoff experience and her struggle between constant action and creating space…
S1E9 Beyond the Label: Finding Your Professional Edge
Send us Fan MailJess and Lisa dive deep into the mysterious ways our professional identities shape our personal interactions, revealing surprising insights about hidden assumptions and unexplored…
Unpack Snack: Sharing the Layoff News
Send us Fan MailNavigating the complex emotional terrain of sharing layoff news with professional connections reveals stark differences in how people respond based on relationship closeness.• Close…
S1E8 When One Door Closes: Navigating Unexpected Career Transitions
Send us Fan MailWhen a door closes, what if it's not just a setback but an opportunity for liberation? This week, Lisa shares her raw, unfiltered response to being laid off—and it's not what you…
S1E7 Beyond Fitting In: What It Means to Truly Belong
Send us Fan MailJess and Lisa dive into a profound discussion about the concept of belonging and how it relates to our sense of self and our place in various communities.• Sharing the ups and downs…
S1E6 The Problem is The Solution: Better Results through Better Questions
Send us Fan MailThursday is the best day of the week. At least according to Jess, who had her perspective permanently shifted by a high school biology teacher's grocery store metaphor 25 years ago.…
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Lots to Unpack There has published 27 episodes since April 2025, covering topics in Business, Entrepreneurship.
Lots to Unpack There is currently highly active with new episodes weekly. Average episode length is 54m.
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