The EOB Podcast
Justin Leader and Julie Selesnick
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About This Podcast
Healthcare benefits are broken. Confusing by design. Buried in fine print. Protected by jargon.
The EOB Podcast (Explanation of Benefits) exists to rip the curtain back.
Hosted by Justin Leader, founder of BenefitsDNA — a known disruptor in the healthcare benefits industry, alongside Julie Selesnick, Director, Legal & Compliance at Judi Group and Founder & Principal Attorney at Health Plan Legal Counsel, a non-conflicted resource for fiduciaries sound benefit choices. This podcast breaks down what’s really happening inside health plans, contracts, and EOBs… in plain English.
This isn’t theory.
This isn’t recycled talking points.
And this definitely isn’t fluff.
Each episode dives into topics like:
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What your EOB actually says (and what it doesn’t)
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Fiduciary responsibility & plan sponsor accountability
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Contract language, negotiations, and hidden incentives
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Why benefits cost what they cost — and how to fix it
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Real-world wins, failures, and lessons learned from the front lines
The goal is simple: make healthcare benefits understandable, actionable, and harder to hide behind complexity.
Along the way, Justin and Julie bring in “Friends with Benefits” — industry insiders, legal experts, and operators who are actively challenging the status quo and building smarter, more cost-effective benefit plans.
If you’re tired of lip service…
If you believe benefits don’t have to be this complicated…
If you want real education you can actually use…
Welcome to The EOB Podcast — where we keep it real, challenge the system, and explain benefits the way they should be explained.
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Recent Episodes
Jamie Greenleaf | Healthcare Fees Are Hidden… And Employers Are at Risk
What if the biggest risk in your healthcare plan… is something you can’t even see? In this episode of The EOB Podcast, Justin and Julie are joined by Jamie Greenleaf, Co-Founder of Fiduciary in a…
PBM Transparency Rule Sparks Chaos | Inside the DOL Comment Storm
This one couldn’t wait. In this episode of The EOB Podcast, Justin and Julie break down the proposed Department of Labor rule on PBM transparency — and the flood of industry responses submitted…
What If Hospitals Were Treated Like Utilities? | Fixing Healthcare Pricing & more | Friends with Benefits 2: David Balinski of Wire Health
What if the solution to rising healthcare costs isn’t more complexity… but more structure? In this episode of The EOB Podcast, Friends with Benefits Episode 2, Justin and Julie sit down with David…
Gag Clauses Are “Banned”… So Why Can’t You Access Your Data? | What Employers Need to Know
Gag clauses were officially banned under the Consolidated Appropriations Act (CAA)… so why are employers still struggling to access their own healthcare data? In this episode of The EOB Podcast,…
Friends with Benefits 1: Mike Miele on PBMs, GLP-1s, and Drug Pricing
Welcome to the first episode of our new “Friends With Benefits” series on The EOB Podcast. Julie Selesnick and Justin Leader bring in one of the smartest people they know in the healthcare benefits…
The Biggest PBM Transparency Rule in Decades? DOL Crackdown on Rebates, Spread Pricing & Hidden Fees
In Episode 2 of The EOB Podcast, Justin Leader and Julie Selesnick break down the proposed U.S. Department of Labor rule that could become the most consequential PBM transparency regulation in…
The Voluntary Benefits Reckoning: Lawsuits, Hidden Commissions & the Fiduciary Wake-Up Call
In this episode of The EOB Podcast, Justin Leader and Julie Selesnick pull back the curtain on the explosive Schlichter voluntary benefits lawsuits—and why they could permanently reshape how…
Frequently Asked Questions
The EOB Podcast has published 7 episodes since February 2026, covering topics in Health & Fitness, Medicine.
The EOB Podcast is currently highly active with new episodes every 2 weeks. Average episode length is 52m.
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