Episodes 91
Avg. Duration 32m
Activity Highly Active
Apple Rating 5.0 (11)
Since Oct 2024
Latest Episode Jun 2026

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Unrelating is an all new podcast that explores relationships, why we do what we do, and what causes people to "un-relate". Join Kelly & Michelle as they talk to real people about the relationship challenges they face and provide an expert to help them sort it all out.

Unrelating is hosted by show producer Kelly Beck and relationship expert Michelle Schafer. Michelle is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist who has been providing individual and couple’s therapy for two decades. 
 
Michelle has her Bachelor’s degree in Biopsychology and Cognitive Science from the University of Michigan and a Master’s in Clinical Psychology, with an emphasis in Marriage and Family Therapy, from Pepperdine. 

Through her practice, she has seen patterns and themes that connect us as people. Her scientific background will help us learn about the brain mechanisms that influence our behavior.  And her psychology background will help us figure out if we should continue in the relationships we’re in!


Follow us on Instagram @unrelatingpocast and be sure to download us on Apple, iHeart, Spotify, Youtube, or wherever you get your podcasts! 

And if you have a question, comment or would like to be a guest on the show, email us at [email protected]

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Recent Episodes

Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Deep Dive Episode 49: Running Towards The Finish Line

Jun 12, 2026 5m

In this deep dive for Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 49 with Matt Fuchs,  we are re-airing our deep dive with therapist Dan Duane. In it, Michelle explores what we can do to be…

S1E49 The Midlife Climax

Jun 10, 2026 1h 1m

Are you dreading middle age and getting older? Dread not! Kel and Michelle sit down with author and researcher Matt Fuchs for an insightful conversation about the classic stereotypes and definitions…

Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 48 Deep Dive: Partners in Clarity - How to Balance True Expectations

May 29, 2026 3m

In this deep dive for Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 48 featuring Maddison Violet, Michelle talks about how helpful it is to be accurate when voicing your expectations.Find Maddison…

S1E48 Partners In Wine: How To Balance Marriage And A Winery

May 27, 2026 58m

Have you ever dreamed of calling all the shots? Kel and Michelle sit down with Maddison Violet, owner of Ve Oh Lay Winery and Farm in Summerland, Canada, to discuss how she and her husband followed…

Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 47 Deep Dive: Reimagining The Root Cause

May 15, 2026 4m

In this deep dive for Unrelating With Kel & Michelle featuring Mark Michaels, Michelle discusses how early relationships impact our attachment to others.In his preprint BINARIES, MULTITUDES, AND…

S1E47 Reimagining Therapy

May 13, 2026 1h 6m

Ready to reimagine how you’re approaching therapy? Kel and Michelle sit down with writer and conceptual artist Mark Michaels to discuss the problems with traditional therapy and why people may feel…

Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 46 Deep Dive: Are You Just a Teenage Dirtbag, Baby?

May 01, 2026 3m

On this week's deep dive of Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 46 with Meehika Barua, Michelle reflects on how young people are having to navigate the world these days.Meehika Barua can be…

Are You Just A Placeholder?

Apr 29, 2026 1h

Kel and Michelle sit down for a candid and eye-opening conversation with writer Meehika Barua about placeholder partners, why people stay in relationships when their partners show no signs of…

Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 45 Deep Dive: Running Towards the Finish Line

Apr 17, 2026 4m

In this deep dive of the episode featuring therapist Dan Duane, Michelle explores what we can do to be intentional and reflective about our life and death.To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be…

S1E45 Running Into The Fire

Apr 15, 2026 45m

Kel and Michelle sit down with new psychotherapist Dan Duane, who pivoted from a successful journalism career later in life, for a candid conversation on why men’s attitudes about the therapy…

Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 45 Deep Dive: Could You Be My Neighbor?

Apr 03, 2026 5m

In this Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 45 Deep Dive, Michelle talks about what happens when you start to notice the world through the eyes of someone with different challenges and how we…

S1E45 Could You Be Neuro-Sensitive?

Apr 01, 2026 1h 9m

Could you be neuro-sensitive? Kel and Michelle sit down with counselor and educational strategist Judy Lipson to find out! We explore some of the traits and characteristics, techniques and tips for…

S1E44 Accountability and Negativity Bias

Mar 18, 2026 43m

Kel and Michelle discuss why accountability matters and how negativity bias affects our mental health. We explore how not taking accountability impacts our relationships and the psychological reasons…

Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 43 Deep Dive: Leaving Old Reactions Behind

Mar 06, 2026 5m

In this Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 43 deep dive, Michelle highlights two themes from Justine's show, exploring regret and being open to improvements.To ask us a question, suggest a…

S1E43 Leaving A Career Behind

Mar 04, 2026 48m

Kel and Michelle sit down with Justine, a young professional who has pivoted between multiple diverse careers, to discuss lessons she’s learned, navigating workplace discontentment and…

Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 42 Deep Dive: The Power Of Awareness

Feb 20, 2026 3m

Top recap Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 41 with Terry, Michelle delves deeper into having us try to understand our responses to adversity so we can enhance our resilience.To ask us a…

S1E42 The Power Of Resilience

Feb 18, 2026 56m

Kel and Michelle sit down with cancer survivor and author Terry Healey for an inspiring conversation about adversity, recovery, and resilience. After a life-threatening cancer left him with a…

Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 41 Deep Dive: Each Of Us VS The Manosphere

Feb 06, 2026 6m

To recap Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 41, in this deep dive Michelle talks about why it can be hard to take action or accept responsibility in our lives and when we're up against…

S1E41 Parents Vs. The Manosphere

Feb 04, 2026 59m

Kel and Michelle sit down for a candid and eye-opening conversation with educator and online content creator Abby Eckel about the challenges of raising boys in today’s negative social media…

Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 40 Deep Dive: When To Cut Off Your Aches And Pains

Jan 23, 2026 4m

After the Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 40, Michelle does a Deep Dive on a type of therapy mentioned on the show with Sharon that works on the mind-body connection, and how we are…

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