Untangling PANDAS & PANS: Conversations about Infection-Associated, Immune-Mediated Neuropsychiatric Disorders
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Untangling PANDAS & PANS: Conversations about Infection-Associated, Immune-Mediated Neuropsychiatric Disorders

Susan Newman Manfull, PhD

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27
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Monthly
~every 29 days
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1h 3m
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Mar 30, 2026
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About the Show

Hello and welcome to Untangling PANDAS & PANS, a podcast about two relatively unknown medical disorders characterized by the sudden and dramatic onset of obsessions and compulsions, vocal or motor tics, or restricted eating behavior -- and a whole host of other symptoms -- following strep or other bacterial or viral infection. Sometimes overnight.   I have the privilege of interviewing some of the top researchers and clinicians in the rapidly growing field of Infection-Associated, Immune-Mediated Neuropsychiatric Disorders. That’s a mouthful of words that encompasses the strangely named disorders, PANDAS and PANS.

My name is Dr. Susan Manfull. I am a social psychologist, the Executive Director of The Alex Manfull Fund, and the mother of Alex Manfull, who died at 26 years old due to PANDAS, a neuropsychiatric disorder my husband and I knew next to nothing about, certainly not that our daughter could die from it.

PANDAS is an acronym for “Pediatric Autoimmune Neuropsychiatric Disorder Associated with Streptococcus.” This disorder, first defined in 1998 at the National Institute of Mental Health, describes the acute and dramatic onset of obsessions and compulsions and/or motor or vocal tics as well as a whole host of neuropsychiatric symptoms in temporal association to a Group A streptococcal infection.  PANS, which stands for Pediatric Acute-onset Neuropsychiatric Syndrome, refers to a similar symptom presentation -- with obsessions and compulsions or restricted eating being the cardinal symptoms -- due to a broader category of triggers (typically bacterial or  viral infections). Both are thought to stem from a dysregulated immune system, probably leading to an over-production of autoantibodies and concomitant excess brain inflammation, particularly in the basal ganglia. 

Symptoms vary from person to person and range in  severity from mild to severe, and generally have a relapsing and remitting course. With early recognition and correct treatment, these disorders can be successfully treated. Today, it is no longer viewed as a diagnosis limited to the pediatric population.

Please stay tuned after each episode to listen to a one-minute public service announcement about PANDAS & PANS and The Alex Manfull Fund.  To learn more, please visit our website: TheAlexManfullFund.org.

This content is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified healthcare provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

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27 episodes — long track record

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Apr 06, 2024
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Recent Episodes

S3E23 S3 E23: Jadin O'Brien Overcomes PANDAS to Excel in Track & Field and Compete on the USA Olympic Bobsled Team

Mar 30, 2026 1h 33m Transcript

Jaden O’Brien takes us inside the world of Olympic bobsled racing, beginning with the grind of multi-event track at Notre Dame to a three-week bobsled tryout in Lake Placid that  turned into a World…

S3E22 S3 E22: Dr. Omar Morales Talks About His Path to LymeMexico

Feb 23, 2026 1h 23m Transcript

A sudden storm of obsessions, tics, rage, and cognitive chaos can follow a simple infection—and families are left searching for answers. We sit down with Dr. Omar Morales, a hematology‑trained…

S3E21 S3 E21: My Eclectic Conversation with Fulvio D'Acquisto, PhD: From Carl Rogers to Immuno-Moodulin

Jan 25, 2026 1h 32m Transcript

What if sudden OCD, tics, and food restriction after an infection aren’t “all in the head,” but start with immune cells carrying a biochemical message to the brain? We sit down with Dr. Fulvio…

S2E20 S2 E20: The Alex Manfull Fund Reflects on the Past and Looks to the Future

Jan 05, 2026 58m Transcript

The Manfulls open up about losing their daughter, Alex, to complications of PANDAS/PANS—and how that loss became a focused mission to change the way medicine recognizes and treats infection‑triggered…

S2E19 S2 E19: Rheumatic Clues To Understanding the PANDAS/PANS Puzzle -- A Conversation with Dr. J. Patrick Whelan

Oct 26, 2025 1h 25m Transcript

A sore throat that ends in compulsions, tics, and a child who suddenly can’t sleep or attend school sounds improbable—until you hear a pediatric rheumatologist walk through the biology. Dr. J.…

S2E18 S2 E18: My Conversation with Dr. Mikki Tal about How She Is Revolutionizing Our Understanding of Infection-Associated Chronic Illness

Sep 28, 2025 1h 15m Transcript

What makes some people vulnerable to devastating chronic illness after infections that most recover from easily? Dr. Michal "Mikki" Tal, pioneering immunoengineer at MIT, is tackling this question…

S2E17 S2 E17: Sheilah Gauch Offers Eight Tips for Students with PANS and their Parents on How to Successfully Transition to College...or Anywhere Else

Aug 31, 2025 1h 19m Transcript

Transitioning to college marks a significant milestone for any young adult, but for those with PANS/PANDAS, this journey demands unique preparation and understanding. In this illuminating…

S2E16 S2 E16: Dr. Andrew Baumel: One Pediatrician's Journey to Include Mild Cases of PANDAS/PANS into his Everyday Practice

Jul 27, 2025 46m Transcript

Dr. Andrew Baumel's story reveals how curiosity, compassion, and clinical observation can lead to breakthrough care for children suffering from immune-mediated neuropsychiatric disorders.After 18…

S2E15 S2 E15: Science Under Siege: A conversation with Dr. Uğur Akcan and Dr. Dritan Agalliu about PANDAS Research, NIH Cuts, and the Power of Community

Jun 30, 2025 1h 31m Transcript

How does a common strep infection become a brain disorder? Dr. Uğur Akcan's journey from Istanbul to the cutting edge of PANDAS research with Dr. Dritan Agalliu reveals the fascinating intersection…

S2E14 S2 E14: When Everything Changes: Jen's Journey with PANS/PANDAS and the Fight to Be Believed

Jun 01, 2025 58m Transcript

In this powerful episode of Untangling PANDAS and PANS, host Susan Manfull, PhD sits down with Jen, a resilient young woman whose health took a devastating and mysterious turn in her early twenties.…

S2E13 S2 E13: Understanding the Role of a Psychologist in PANDAS and PANS: A Conversation with Dr. Sarah O'Dor

Apr 27, 2025 1h 15m Transcript

In this illuminating conversation, Dr. Sarah O'Dor—Harvard instructor and Director of Research at Massachusetts General Hospital's PANDAS Clinic—reveals how strep infections and other triggers can…

S2E12 S2 E12: The Neuropathology of PANDAS/PANS: Dr. Brent Harris Talks about the POND Brain Bank

Mar 31, 2025 1h 16m Transcript

This podcast episode features an interview with Dr. Brent Harris, the Director of Neuropathology at Georgetown University where he wears many hats, including overseeing the Georgetown Brain Bank. In…

S2E11 S2 E11: Physician-Scientist Herb Lachman, MD, Talks about Recent Genetic Observations in PANS: DNA Damage Response Genes

Feb 23, 2025 1h 13m Transcript

Dr Herb Lachman is a physician, behavioral geneticist, and professor at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City.  In his 44 years on the faculty, he has studied the molecular basis…

S2E10 S2 E10: Dr. Juliette Madan Explains the Importance of Epidemiological Research on PANDAS & PANS

Jan 26, 2025 46m Transcript

Juliette C. Madan, MD, MS wears many hats. Dr. Madan is an Associate Professor of Pediatrics, Psychiatry, Epidemiology, and Quantitative Biomedical Data Science at Geisel School of Medicine at…

S1E9 S1 E9: Dr. Warris Bokhari Vows to Make Healthcare Equitable One Unjust Insurance Denial at a Time

Dec 29, 2024 1h 17m

Dr. Warris Bokhari, CEO and co-founder of the insurance appeals platform Claimable, discusses how the product is helping patients with PANDAS and PANS diagnoses fight denied healthcare claims.  He…

S1E8 S1 E8: Dr. Pawel Kiela Discusses the Gut Microbiome, Microglia, and PANDAS

Nov 24, 2024 1h 19m Transcript

Pawel Kiela, DVM, PhD currently holds the rank of Professor and has a PANDA endowed chair in Autoimmune Disease Research in the Department of Pediatrics at the University of Arizona Medical School in…

S1E7 S1 E7: Dr. Tim Ubhi Talks about Treating PANDAS/PANS in the UK at his new London PANS Clinic

Sep 29, 2024 1h 25m

Susan Manfull, PhD crossed the pond to speak with Dr. Tim Ubhi, consultant paediatrician and fellow of the United Kingdom’s Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health.  Dr. Tim, as his patients…

S1E6 S1 E6: The Story Behind AB2105, California's Bill to Require Insurance Coverage for PANDAS/PANS Treatment

Aug 25, 2024 50m

In this episode of Untangling PANDAS & PANS, Susan Manfull, PhD talks with April Ronay, founder of California Coalition for PANS/PANDAS (aka, Cal-Coalition), and Shari Strulson, one of the…

S1E5 S1 E5: Earl Harley, MD Talks About How Otolaryngologists Can Assist in the Treatment of PANDAS

Jul 28, 2024 44m

Earl Harley, MD, FACS, FAAPS is a highly regarded pediatric otolaryngologist (Ears, Nose, and Throat doctor or ENT) at Georgetown University Medical Center and a beloved assistant professor at the…

S1E4 S1 E4: Beth Latimer, MD Discusses How the Understanding of PANDAS has Progressed: It is Not Solely a Pediatric Disorder

Jun 30, 2024 1h 6m

M. Elizabeth “Beth” Latimer, MD is a pioneer in the field of autoimmune encephalitis and is known across the country and in Europe for her expertise in treating PANDAS and PANS. She received her…

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