What Do You Mean By That?
Sara and Misasha
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26: Still Not a Monolith: How We're Thinking About AANHPI Heritage Month This Year
What does it mean to be American? What does it mean to be Asian American — and why, in 2026, are so many of us still leading with worry? Today, in honor of AANHPI Heritage Month, we're diving into…
25: From Almost High School Dropout to Stanford Law to Fighting for All Of Us: Using Legal Skills as a Force for Good, with Luke Liss
What if the thing holding back justice isn't lack of will — it's lack of access? Today's guest is doing something about that after coming up from a really rough time in high school, a near-fatal…
24: Are White Men Smarter Than Everyone Else? With Steve Phillips
The choice before us in 2026 is similar to the choice before Americans in the latter half of the 19th century, and the way we're framing it today is this: Which straight White male President's line…
23: 7 Years, One Big Rebrand, and Everything We Know Now: An Honest Anniversary Conversation
7 Years, One Big Rebrand, and Everything We Know Now: An Honest Anniversary Conversation Have we ever thought about quitting the podcast? What did we think when we were starting Dear White Women…
22: Where Do You Belong? Multi-Ethnic Identity and Citizenship with Megumi Nishikura
Sara. Misasha. Megumi. All three of us are the daughter of one Japanese parent and one White parent each. All three of us had dual citizenship with the United States and Japan at one point. But the…
21: Fixing Fairness: The Future of DEI, Workplace Equity, and Organizational Change, with Lily Zheng
What if the very programs designed to make workplaces fairer are actually making the problem worse? In this episode, we begin with the famous "Cobra Effect"—a colonial-era policy that unintentionally…
20: Where the Girls Were, with Kate Schatz
Today's conversation is one about history — but also about now. About 1968 and about 2026. About who gets control over their own body — and who never truly has. About the quiet, complicated ways…
19: The Conversations We All Need to Have About Black History Month
Here we are, February, which is also Black History Month (and for the record: Black history is American history. We'll say this all day, every day, until everyone gets on this train.). It's not lost…
18: What to do about (Secret Pol)ICE In Our Communities
*** We recorded this episode before ICE murdered Alex Pretti, a 37 year old ICU nurse who was attempting to help a woman up who had been pushed to the ground by ICE agents in Minneapolis on the…
17: New Year of Actions + Why Getting Names Right Matters
If you're a repeat listener to the podcast over the last almost SEVEN years, you know that sometimes, we've done seasonal arcs in which we focus on a topic or theme for the season. (And if you've…
16: Leaving 2025 Behind: What We're Letting Go Of and What We're Taking Into 2026
We've had rough years before—but 2025? This one hit different. If you've been listening to us for the last six years, you know we're no strangers to hard conversations. DEI. Wellbeing. Systems that…
15: Raising Boys in an Age of Backlash: Soraya Chemaly on Power, Gender, and What Comes Next
In today's episode, we sit down with feminist author and activist Soraya Chemaly for a conversation that feels both urgent and deeply grounding. Soraya's new book, All We Want Is Everything, traces…
14: Becoming Smarter News Consumers, with the founder of Ad Fontes Media, Home of the Media Bias Chart
In an age where AI can fake a video, social platforms reward outrage, and even the word 'misinformation' means different things to different people, one question rises above the noise: how do we know…
13: How to Have Difficult Conversations, featuring Dr. Bill Doherty, Co-founder of Braver Angels
Are you a little worried about holiday conversations with your relatives and family members in this increasingly polarized political climate? You're not alone. Welcome to something new – a live…
12: Uncompete: The Case for Redefining Success, Together - with Ruchika Malhotra
When we have repeat guests back on the pod, it's because we love them, their work, and the message that they're not only sending out into the world but embodying themselves. And we think all of this…
11: What We Meant By That - The Debrief on Elie Mystal's Brilliance
Welcome to our first Debrief episode, where we reflect and digest what our brilliant guests shared in a prior conversation. We were blown away by the sheer brilliance and clarity in our last…
10: Elie Mystal on Bad Laws, Big Truths, and How to Change the System
This episode is a must-listen for anyone who's ever felt like legal talk is impossible to understand (👋 Sara included!). We're joined by Elie Mystal, brilliant legal mind, powerful truth-teller, and…
09: The Devil Emails At Midnight, With Mita Mallick
Whether you've ever been a boss or have ever had a boss, you know how much those singular individuals can shape the workplace. According to studies, a good manager can increase employee engagement by…
08: How to Be a Better Human: What WE Really Think
We had a very insightful superfan make a brilliant suggestion that we're acting on, starting with this episode. David Gaines, author of Radical Business, CEO of La Terza Coffee, and kind human being,…
07: How to Rest without Feeling Guilty
In our last episode of our series on how to be a better human, we're talking about rest. Specifically, what do we mean by rest, and why is it so important? How do we grapple with its significance in…
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